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The LED SAE J583 Fog Pod & Fog Light Review

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by crashnburn80, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. Sep 18, 2020 at 10:04 AM
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    koukimonster

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    Hmm. Cool. I think I'll go for the Sport model since the primary use for these (in my case) will be on the streets near my home in the city. If I ever need more light when off-road, I'll add some floods/spots to my bull bar. I also drive an M Sport BMW, 350Z, etc., and am regularly annoyed by even stock lights on trucks/SUV's. You don't realize that trucks' OEM lights are already shining right into drivers' eyes until you've driven a true sports car that sits, basically, on the ground. I don't want to be one of those guys on the other side of the coin now. I'm sure the stock HID's in various large trucks are "SAE compliant," as well, but that doesn't mean they aren't blinding the sh*t out of other drivers constantly. Cheers

    P.S. Obviously, just because you aren't flashed, doesn't mean you aren't bothering others. I gave up on trying to teach the world to drive years ago.. pointless.
     
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  2. Sep 18, 2020 at 10:31 AM
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    I have rarely told myself "I wish I could see just a little bit less"... :rofl:
     
  3. Sep 18, 2020 at 10:40 AM
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    mynameistory

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    The whole "flashing" thing is anecdotal at best. I've been flashed at least a half dozen times when my truck was completely stock with dim factory halogen low beams and no lift.
     
  4. Sep 18, 2020 at 1:05 PM
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    Agreed. The challenge for me has always been how to improve my night vision through better lighting without bothering oncoming drivers. Some folks don't worry about that second part very much.
     
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  5. Sep 18, 2020 at 3:27 PM
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    Since we have many SS3 users here - you should know that your SS3 pods are IP69K rated! We just received word from a third party lab that the SS3 meets this high-durability waterproof rating.

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  6. Sep 18, 2020 at 3:44 PM
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    Rigid 23004 Radiance light bar Cheap 3K 18W LED Fogs General AT-2's Pioneer AVH4200NEX w/ iDatalink JL XD5003V2 Focal 165KRX2's JL 10TW3 Arcticstart 803
    :anonymous:Kinda like too much fog on the floor show.
     
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  7. Sep 18, 2020 at 4:29 PM
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    SS3s be like
    [​IMG]
     
  8. Sep 18, 2020 at 4:30 PM
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    :laser:
     
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  9. Sep 18, 2020 at 10:10 PM
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    If they are 4000k, then the best performance halogen bulb color match would be the Osram Nightbreaker Laser +150, which I've measured at a little over 3600k in post #2 of the headlight thread here. It will be closer, though not perfect. You can get whiter fully coated halogen bulbs, but there will be a significant performance penalty. If they are 6000k there is no getting anywhere close to that with a halogen, you'd need to go to LED. The best LEDs I've tested are the Hikari Ultras which have the smallest cross section for best focus in the 3rd Gen projector. Peak intensity won't match that of a performance halogen, but it will get the 6000k color match.
     
  10. Sep 19, 2020 at 2:27 AM
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    Old Quote. Buuut I just installed DD Sports on my Limited that had OEM H16 fogs. I noticed how hot they got while aiming them. Should I be concerned? Is the stock wire gauge sufficient enough to run the DD? I usually run DRL and fogs in the morning.
     
  11. Sep 19, 2020 at 5:31 AM
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    The SS3s are going to get nice and hot on the back of the housing. That's a product of the design and the cooling technologies. The stock electrical system has more than enough headroom for what the SS3 is asking for though :thumbsup:
     
  12. Sep 19, 2020 at 8:29 AM
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    Your stock H16 bulbs were 19w, the SS3s are 14.5w, so you are actually running less power through the wires. The same wires are used for the TRD 55w H11 fogs as well, needless to say they will be fine. LEDs do produce heat, and the back of the pod is the heat sink to radiate that heat away, it is supposed to get hot. :)
     
  13. Sep 19, 2020 at 4:59 PM
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    What about these? Sorry new to projector style headlights. Just trying to get the right thing. If you have a link for what i should get, thatd be helpful
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XX3ND4J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WvPzFbV1J1VZ4
     
  14. Sep 19, 2020 at 5:27 PM
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    Stay away from anything with a blue coating. Although it may look cool, it cuts down (significantly) on light output.

    For the best current bulbs, see here:

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...11-projector-headlights.589465/#post-19689309
     
  15. Sep 19, 2020 at 5:29 PM
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    Definitely no. A halogen with a dark coating needed to achieve 5000k color temp will have very low output. If trying to match 4000k, the Osram Nightbreaker lasers are about 3600k by my numbers:

    OSRAM NIGHT BREAKER LASER H11, next generation, 150% more brightness, halogen headlamp: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FXRDJW2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ogQzFb511KMWE

    If wanting to go higher in color temp, output will be reduced. You can look for some bulbs near 4000k that are fully coated, they will be more of a ‘styling’ bulb than a performance one regardless of what the package says. The higher the color temp in halogen after the mid 3500k range, the lower the output.
     
  16. Sep 19, 2020 at 5:36 PM
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    Gorcha. Thanks for the tips guys. Will check those out.
     
  17. Sep 19, 2020 at 9:42 PM
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    Sweeeet. Thanks again Colton for the fogs. They arrived a day earlier than the estimated delivery date and just had time to install them yesterday. Love em.

    Thank you sir for the info, appreciate all the work&info you contribute to TW. Bought the Hikaris based on your testing.
     
  18. Sep 20, 2020 at 4:18 AM
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    Sorry very off topic but finally got my ss3s but stuck on the wiring portion as my car did not come with fogs.

    This guy tapped into 12v using a male/female adapter but I can't tell if I need to use 2 prongs or 1. (Red cable) Will I damage my car if 2 prongs are used?

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  19. Sep 20, 2020 at 6:24 AM
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    You have an SR without fog lights and you want to add in your ss3’s?

    Take a look a these two threads for some good info:
     
  20. Sep 21, 2020 at 7:18 AM
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    Just wanted to say thank you for everyones help. I was finally able to install the ss3's (sport model) over the weekend. Since there are no available brackets for my vehicle, had to do some rotary work on the inside of the bumper to make them fit. Yes, it looks horrible but happy they are finally secure in place.

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