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The LED SAE J583 Fog Pod & Fog Light Review

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by crashnburn80, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. Nov 20, 2018 at 2:52 PM
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    m603holden

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    My phone isn't really representing the light well but it looks great in person . Here's a side shot. Head on the glare is tough from the drl. Might put the fogs on a separate switch

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  2. Nov 20, 2018 at 2:59 PM
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    That output is awesome just from a phone pic with street lighting in the mix. And I'm really digging how much wider the beam pattern is than the OEM fogs. I'm placing my order soon. Is @Taylor@KC HiLiTES setting up a group buy or providing a black friday coupon???
     
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  3. Nov 20, 2018 at 3:26 PM
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    Here's some better things

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  4. Nov 23, 2018 at 2:38 AM
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  7. Nov 23, 2018 at 1:20 PM
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  8. Nov 23, 2018 at 3:17 PM
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    Ummm... Did I hear someone say Group Buy on the amber G4s?

    Can I come, too? Huh? Huh? Can I?

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  9. Nov 23, 2018 at 4:50 PM
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    In order of install: Tint all around Weathertech floormats Center console insert and tray 17x7.5 +15mm alloy FJ rims, painted black Morimoto 2stroke led low beams Toyota bed mat AVS in-channel vent visors Removed black stickers from doors Removed air dam Debadged JDM ASTAR reverse leds Door sill protectors Reflective black tailgate inserts Rear cam anytime Fabric console cover Extra coverage engine guards Rigid SAE fogs Kicker/Subaru in-dash speakers JBL GT7-96 front door speakers JBL GT7-6 rear door speakers Hushmat deadener and wave breakers in doors Noico deadener behind rear seats Timbren Tortun4L rear bumpstops Added Line-X'd OEM flares OEM mudflaps Skid from TRD OR Avid Off Road front bumper guard Fatmat hoodliner 2nd gen 5100's with 2885s Sway bar relocate Cut off exhaust behind spare Wet Okoles on front seats Wheelers Superbumps Wheelers 2” single AAL ATH corner tie-downs ATH bed stiffeners Line-X’d rear bumper end caps TRD Sport/OR tail lights OEM bed step TRD Pro grille Fortin remote start Leer 180 Sleeping platform in bed 265/70/17 Terra Grappler G2 BPF front recovery point OV Tune 1.04 87 Westin 30” hidden bumper light bar Rago hidden bumper brackets
    No pic comprison, but I swapped out my rigids for OR wide angle fogs before trading truck in. Wow! I could actually see into a corner I was turning into. The OR fogs are awesome for that use.
     
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  10. Nov 23, 2018 at 5:01 PM
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    Big difference between the Rigid 45 degree side projection vs the OR 75 degree side projection.
     
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  11. Nov 24, 2018 at 4:20 PM
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    My 2015 Legacy comes with 19W H16 fogs like SR5 Tacoma, and apparently replacing with 55W H11 melts the Legacy fog housings. Any suggestions? The easy fix seems to be Nokya or PIAA halogen H16 bulbs, but doesn’t seem like it makes any light output improvement, just allows yellower color.
     
  12. Nov 24, 2018 at 5:53 PM
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    Aside from replacing the housing with an SAE LED fog housing, if any exist for that make and model, you could look at putting in a 35w H8. It is a more incremental bump, output would go up from 500 lumens to over 800, so it would give a 60%+ improvement. Not double but certainly better. I’ve personally not done H16 to H8 upgrade so there may be minor trimming of the bulbs tabs to get it to plug into the connector and or housing.
     
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  13. Nov 24, 2018 at 7:37 PM
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    I just sold my Rigids off my Tacoma before trading in, was not a fan :p
     
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    I linked the required mods to mount the Rigids in the OEM fog locations for all the Tacomas in the original post, so it should be pretty straight forward, but here it is again:

    Rigid Rage of Fabrication adapters
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    The OEM TRD fogs have a significantly wider throw pattern, but being significantly wider pattern may not project as far as the more forward focused fogs. The OEM 3200k color temp is pretty ideal for best illumination without being overly white/blue if not looking for yellow/amber.

    I agree with both of you that the Rigids are way too blue. If going with 'white' LED, I much prefer the KC G4 color output which was the best (lowest) measured color temperature, while also having a wider pattern.
     
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    The fog light assemblies are virtually the same but the front bumper facade is not, and the pod mounts have to contour into the face of the bumper and utilize it to anchor the mount.
     
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    Which brighter bulbs work in the 3rd gen TRD offroad fog lights?
     
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    Any idea when the Amber Rigids will be on market? Also do you know what the angle of the beam will be? Was set on the KC amber lights(on sale right now) but don't know if I should wait for the Rigids? In your opinion what is the best amber Fog on the market?
     
  20. Nov 26, 2018 at 7:22 AM
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    Rigid says the product will launch in December, unsure if that is early or late in the month. Side projection angle is the same as the white SAE pods at 45 degrees, KC has a wider projection angle for more area coverage.

    Rigids are more of a selective yellow than actual amber, whereas KC is true amber. You can see the in depth comparison in post #367 here:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...fog-light-review.554813/page-19#post-19144873

    The Rigids are brighter with a narrower pattern and more yellow color compared to the KCs that are not as bright with a wider pattern and true amber light. I view the Rigids as being a broader more multi-purpose light whereas the KCs should do better in the worst fog conditions.
     
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