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The LED SAE J583 Fog Pod & Fog Light Review

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by crashnburn80, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. Feb 25, 2019 at 3:25 PM
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    So I spoke with a Rigid rep on Instagram last week and they said the amber SAE fogs will be launching by April. Crossing my fingers this happens.

     
  2. Feb 28, 2019 at 12:11 PM
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  5. Feb 28, 2019 at 2:13 PM
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    Not saying that's where i'd buy them from, but as an example to be tested for output and beam pattern.
     
  6. Feb 28, 2019 at 6:29 PM
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    No present plans at this time, the OEM LED fogs thus far from Toyota are a bit disappointing. I don't anticipate them comparing to the high performing KC G4s. However if someone wanted to send them to me, I can try them out and send them back the next day as was done with the Lexus LED fogs.
     
  7. Mar 1, 2019 at 2:16 PM
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    I live in Pierce County and have a stock 2017 offroad with fog lights. I'd be happy to visit Kirkland if we can come up with a time to meet. Test my lights and BS Tacoma lighting.
     
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  8. Mar 1, 2019 at 6:30 PM
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    Do you have the new OEM LED fogs? I've tested the factory TRD halogen ones which are the same in the 12-15 Tacomas and the 2016+ TRD Tacomas. Either way though, you are welcome to come by! I'm having some other members over this Sunday to do some slider installs, you are welcome to join. Shoot me a PM for info.
     
  9. Mar 4, 2019 at 10:10 AM
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    Thank you - we just want to update that you were able to fix the alignment and they fit with a clean cut-off (you updated a different thread a week ago but not this one so we want to jump in). Our h8/11 work with h16 and are in reflector housings with great results - many switched from that kickstart to deAutoLED :)
    http://deautokey.com/product/dual-c...n-a-clean-white-hyper-3000k-yellow-at-anytime

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    Sorry for any confusion. I only wanted to make one post about clearing up some feedback that mentioned our company.

    There is really no marketing hype as that just leads to bad feedback and we only share real customer feedback. My purpose in posting was to update @Burritoma feedback as he reinstalled our fog LEDs and fixed the problem. He updated the other thread but not this one so it is just good to have updated information everywhere.

    There is non-strobe/flash also - these are not a gimmick bulb. These are a bright clean hyper 3k yellow and bright white along with the option of halogen to match many OEM housings.

    I was only posting to clear up one post - not to take over this thread so it will be my last reply. Thanks
     
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  10. Mar 4, 2019 at 10:42 AM
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    All of the products in this thread are real engineered SAE J583 compliant fog lights. It is well understood that drop in LEDs in a halogen reflector housing do not provide clean cut offs, this is basic geometry, and in no way SAE compliant or even recognized. Does your product contain an SAE, DOT, E1 compliance certification stamp? Like every single one of the other products in this thread. How did your product test in the legally required SAE foglight chromaticity window?
     
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  11. Mar 4, 2019 at 11:03 AM
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    Sorry, I'm not buying the marketing hype. I'm an Engineer and I'll go with science every time. Your product looks just like every other "blade style" aftermarket drop in LED headlight bulb - right down to the 360 degree rotational adjustment. (Which nobody will ever get wrong.) And I'm sure nobody would ever use the "strobe function" on the street as opposed to just at car shows or off-road. Words fail me. (Of course I'll probably get spanked for dissing a vendor here.)
     
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  12. Mar 5, 2019 at 3:44 PM
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    Actually, The strobe function works great for construction vehicles. Our company trucks are outfitted with them, and they allow for the "clean" lines of the trucks to remain unchanged, while offering strobe functions when we need to identify hazards to the public.
     
  13. Mar 5, 2019 at 4:17 PM
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    I'm not arguing with legitimate use of that kind of function. For instance, I have a full two level warning light bar on my roof with amber rotators, strobes and LEDs that I only use for warning or emergency purposes. But I see a ton of people with similar bars using them for the wrong purposes.
     
  14. Mar 5, 2019 at 4:22 PM
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    Then perhaps your, and others, quarrels would be with people that use them for ill designed purposes, rather than the manufacture? Just commenting as you said "marketing hype".
     
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    Truth be told, it's a little bit of both. For a manufacturer, a fog light is about the worst possible location and beam pattern to be used for warning purposes. The lights are located too low on the vehicle and the beam pattern is too flat. The result is extremely limited warning ability. (And it should be noted that they don't market them for warning purposes, only mentioning a "strobe mode.") I really doubt any company needing warning lights would even consider these bulbs. And I can safely say this having a friend who owns a company that sells and installs warning / emergency lighting systems. That leaves it up to the individual user to decide not to abuse the strobe mode. Given the disturbing number of folks who abuse LED light bars, I'm not real confident there. Just my personal opinion.
     
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    :thumbsup: And I can say, as upper management in a construction company, and 2 family owned construction/heavy civil companies, we put the lights as close to factory locations as possible. The only exceptions are crew/foreman trucks, which get flashing lights on the roofs. We have used flasher relays attached to aftermarket pods (Rigid for example), cheap Chinese stick on flasher assemblies, actual strobe units drilled and mounted into the OEM light housings, and have found the "drop in" bulbs to be the most value. Less buy in cost, and installation cost. That being said, these aren't everyone's cup of tea. I get it. Some companies go different routes, and that's fine. But if it doesn't work for one group, doesn't mean its a fail across the board. ;)
     
  17. Mar 5, 2019 at 5:45 PM
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    I can relate to where you're coming from. Hide-a-way (HAW) strobes and LEDs are fairly popular up here with snow plows and emergency equipment. My friend sells and installs tons of them - all from Whelen. They're in a whole different league though both in terms of cost and performance. But these HAW's are all installed in addition to the OEM light source.
     
  18. Mar 5, 2019 at 5:48 PM
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    I thought Whelen was mostly light bars and aircraft?
     
  19. Mar 5, 2019 at 6:19 PM
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    Nope. They have a full line of stuff. (I have some of their LEDs in my bar.) Generally speaking, in automotive warning lights, they're the top of the food chain.
     
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    Whelen is high as a giraffe’s ass on airplane lighting, but they pretty much have the market cornered. I wish someone else would come out with some certified lights for GA.
     
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