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The LED SAE J583 Fog Pod & Fog Light Review

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by crashnburn80, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. Apr 2, 2019 at 8:00 AM
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    They already supposedley had issues on the first run and scraped the batch. The only thing new here is the lens, they won’t ship an out of spec product, so I wouldn’t have any concern on getting some from the first batch.
     
  2. Apr 5, 2019 at 8:54 AM
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    i saw that too!
    installing my pods once gets warm! got too cold over the winter to do em can’t believe i still haven’t installed. also didn’t have my truck for a month while i was getting a new frame.
    really want the all yellow no cover pods but i’m going to try the ones i have out since i had ya mod the brackets i’m sure they will be fine and i’ll love em.
     
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  4. Apr 5, 2019 at 1:50 PM
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    I wonder if Rigid would sell just the yellow lens? I would think swapping the lens would be fairly straight forward. But I could be missing something
     
  5. Apr 5, 2019 at 2:03 PM
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    As long as you are swapping the same optic, SAE fog to SAE fog for example, it is very straight forward. Opening the pod to do so would void the warranty, if that matters. You’d just need to be careful closing it up afterward to avoid leaks.

    I haven’t officially heard if Rigid will be making the lens available independently, I know others are interested in that as well.
     
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  6. Apr 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM
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    Is selective yellow making a come back?
     
  7. Apr 5, 2019 at 2:43 PM
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    didn’t you say that they would warranty a pod out in exchange for the selective yellow ?
    or do you think they wouldn’t do that?
     
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    I have acquired most of my lights used. So I would assume no warranty for me...
     
  9. Apr 5, 2019 at 9:30 PM
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    That wasn’t me, I’ve had no communication with Rigid they’d offer that as an option.

    Right, but from a manufacturing and services standpoint, you don’t want to tell your customers to do something you specifically told them in your warranty not to do. If they did it, I would expect it is on a send in service standpoint. But I have no official information on the matter.
     
  10. Apr 6, 2019 at 6:13 PM
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    Met with the Rigid guys at the 4WP Jeep and Truck Fest today. I talked with the same Rep I met with last year and got a bunch of good info.

    1) Rigid uses this very thread as mandatory new hire training reading for their sales staff!!! How cool is that!?
    2) There were design changes to the selective yellow SAE pods since the prototypes I tested. The new pods use different lower color temperature LEDs than their SAE white units, which is a change from the prototype that had just used the lens only. They could not hit the legally required chromaticy window with just the lens alone. Meaning the new lights will be a bit more yellow and have less green hue. This also means that just swapping the lens for those that have white SAE pods will likely not be an option.
    3) Rigid has some really exciting products coming in the pipeline. They are investing in the SAE patterns which is cool to see. As the rep put it, what's the point of buying all these nice lights if you cannot use them on the street. Having helped with the selective yellow lights, I got a sneak peak at unreleased pictures of product prototypes on their phone. Their next generation lights won't be pods or bars...
     
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    Kick ass!

    I love that Rigid is local, I always try to support local businesses!
     
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    Sharks with freakin laser beams!
     
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    Anything special about a rear fog I should look for? I already understand the usage and switch/pilot light requirements.
     
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    A rear for is effectively a brighter rear taillight. What do you plan on using for one and how would you mount it?
     
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    I've just started looking. I'd like it to be flush mount in the bumper (stock bumper now but will later upgrade to steel). I also plan on adding additional white lights on the bumper for reverse/task lighting. So a red/white flush combo on the drivers side and all white on the passenger could work. Just wasn't sure if there was a specific beam pattern requirement on the rear fog portion.

    BTW really appreciate the detail you go into with your lighting reviews. In a world with easy access to low quality junk we need people to understand what makes the good stuff good and the bad stuff garbage.
     
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    I am looking at upgrading my digital spectrometer to a higher end model of the same product line so that I can measure where a light falls on a CIE graph, which is something that is measured for SAE compliance. Had I had this equipment, I could have determined that the original Rigid prototypes were out of the SAE chromaticity spec. They looked like they had a slight green hue, but I had no way to measure that. Color temperature doesn't give the needed information. Anyway, when I bought my digital spectrometer a while back, it was a relatively new product. Toyota had adopted it. Looking at some of the companies that use it now, Osram, Philips, Apple the US Army and many other major names have since adopted the same equipment. I thought that was pretty cool.
     
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    I'll double check, but I think it is going to be pretty similar to a brake light requirement, just brighter.
     
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    You may want to check out some of the Stage type equipment. Pretty high end stuff, what I've seen. Many will let you try before you buy as well.
     
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