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The LED SAE J583 Fog Pod & Fog Light Review

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by crashnburn80, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. Apr 10, 2019 at 7:35 PM
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    crashnburn80

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    I haven’t seen them sold individually, that could be a challenge.
     
  2. Apr 10, 2019 at 8:04 PM
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    They are all over the place individually it looks like. $133 is the average price.
     
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  3. Apr 11, 2019 at 7:47 AM
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    Really? I haven't found singles for that price. Gotta link? I paid $255 for a pair through Jegs (best price at the time).
     
  4. Apr 11, 2019 at 8:54 AM
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    They went back to $133 after I ordered the last one at $77
     
  5. Apr 11, 2019 at 9:45 AM
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    Me too. I have had them for a month and love them
     
  6. Apr 11, 2019 at 12:21 PM
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    I just got the new Toyota OEM LED fogs in. I will be adding them to the review soon.
     
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  7. Apr 19, 2019 at 6:58 PM
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    Toyota OEM LED Fogs

    Toyota part numbers:
    Black surround: PT413-42191
    Chrome surround: PT413-42190

    Toyota OEM LED fog, black surround pictured
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    These units are made by Valeo, which is Toyota's OEM fog light supplier (save Rigid on the Pro). They are the same company that supplied the halogen flog light. Unlike the other OEM lights, these are made in China.

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    Like the Rigid OEM lights, these have a blue hue at the top of the beam, and a warmer yellow hue at the bottom of the beam. The beam pattern has excellent wide angle projection, but like the Morimotos and others, the beam is not very tall. Rigid and KC provide much larger pattern area coverage.

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    The Toyota LED fogs consume 6.6w each.

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    The Morimoto comparison is an easy one to draw due to low price point and styling. The Morimotos use 3 LEDs behind the projector, the OEM Toyota uses 1. The Toyota fogs are about 13% brighter than the Morimotos, while also costing significantly less. The Morimotos have a slightly better (lower) color temp.

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    As a budget LED fog upgrade the OEM Toyota units look pretty hard to beat. They certainly are no-where near Rigid's SAE pods or KC's G4 LEDs in performance, but they out perform what was previously the most budget friendly option at an even lower price point while carrying the OEM Toyota logo and being completely plug and play.

    These can presently be purchased for about $125 directly from Toyota dealers off of ebay and Amazon.
     
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  8. Apr 24, 2019 at 3:44 PM
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    @crashnburn80 just an update on the KC amber lights. The fogs were causing some issues the RF and the Ham Radio. Just sent them a quick message to let them know in case they weren't aware.

    They're sending me out some rf chokes. So +1 again for good customer service on their end. Just thought I'd share.
     
  9. Apr 24, 2019 at 3:59 PM
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    Interesting, good to know! I used to have a mounted CB radio, but now I just use handheld FRS radios plugged into the USB power for trail runs. Simple and light weight. I haven't tried them yet with my fogs on though. Keep us posted on if the rf chokes fix the problem!
     
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  10. Apr 27, 2019 at 12:02 AM
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    Warning! Jeep Wrangler 4" Fog Post!

    The Wrangler takes 4" fogs just like the Tacoma. I recently had the chance to test out the OEM Wrangler LEDs.

    JWSpeaker LED fogs off a Rubicon 10th anniversary edition Rubicon vs OEM LED fog package off a 2018 Rubicon.

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    OEM LED fog, narrow beam pattern like Morimoto and others.
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    JWSpeaker beam pattern. By far best in class for pattern spread of anything I have seen, about 2.75 door panels. Rigid and KC were nearly 2 panels. The JWSpeakers are almost 3 door panels, while base OEM is only 1 panel.
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    Output:
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    While the OEM Wrangler LED fogs produce great beam intensity, their pattern coverage is poor. The JWSpeaker fogs have outstanding best in class pattern coverage, but their intensity isn't quite up to that of KC, which does have a bit smaller coverage area which helps focus output to increase lux numbers. You can see KC's output numbers are higher than JWSpeaker and the color temperature is lower.

    KC G4 by comparison:
    Measurements:
    Color: 5062k
    Lux @ 18ft: 296.3

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Apr 27, 2019 at 3:04 PM
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    Given the height of the JW Speaker fog pattern, aren't they almost a mid-beam as opposed to a fog beam pattern?
     
  12. Apr 27, 2019 at 3:40 PM
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    They certainly would be an extended reach fog. It would be intestine to try them mounted with just the fogs (no headlights). I didn’t share the power draw, but they drew an impressive 22.5w! Which is more than the Rigid pods.
     
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    Pedal Commander - Throttle Response Controller RRW Rock Sliders - https://www.relationsracewheels.com/collections/rock-sliders Cali Raised LED Amber Pod Fog Light Upgrade - https://caliraisedled.com/ Cali Raised CB Antenna Mounts Front Camera Emblem Mount and Backup Cam Controller LED Headlight Bulbs Toyota OEM Roof Rack Road Shower 7 Gallon Power Pop n Lock Tailgate Lock Rear LED Tailgate Strip Reverse Backup LED Bulbs
    Dude, are you kidding me?
    THANK YOU for the Immense amount of time, energy and detail you went through for this to help others.
    Holy Sh!t You Are Awesome
     
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    I'm waiting for the Crash Fog lights.
     
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    My custom made capped H9s? They are coming, but I have some other projects to clear off my plate first.
     
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    The ferrite beads came in. Tossed one on each side. Instead of blanking out the whole Rx, it's has been reduced to a light hiss. Still some work left, but overall a big improvement. Just passing along the information for general knowledge. All mfgs are guilty of noisy LEDs and it is what it is, but hopefully they start to clean it up for a large variety of reasons.

    Also, @Taylor@KC HiLiTES just for your knowledge as well in case it can help any of your customers
     
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    So after narrowing the choices to the Rigid D Series and the KC G4 500, pulled the trigger on the KC. Ultimately it was the quality of the light over raw power and my local climate that swayed me. But couldn't have made this informed decision without the OP. Thank you Sir!
     
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  20. May 8, 2019 at 6:41 AM
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    Between both those in white the KC G4 is an excellent choice. Wider pattern and much better light color temp which is a good trade off IMO vs the bluer Rigids.
     
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