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The LED SAE J583 Fog Pod & Fog Light Review

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by crashnburn80, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. Jun 16, 2019 at 2:12 PM
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    Cruising through some of your posts it looks like you have tested the newest Hikari Ultra H11's ..from pics it looks like Toyota LED fogs are a better color temp match to the Hikari Ultras vs the Morimoto LED fogs. Would you agree or be able to confirm? I like the Morimotos and they have held up well but the color temp difference has always bugged me a little. I would be willing to swap for Toyotas LED fogs just for the sake of a closer color temp matching.

    Thanks for all you do!!
     
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  2. Jun 16, 2019 at 10:20 PM
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    I measured the Hikaris at 6664k color temp. You can see the comparison between the Toyota and Morimotos below. It certainly moves it in the right direction but still leaves a 400k+ gap.

    964A57CC-4438-473E-8D9D-20C27A6FD798.jpg

    The PIAA LED fogs would be the be the match, but their performance is awful. Next closest would be the ORTown fog pods. (Color temp chart in the OP).
     
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  3. Jun 17, 2019 at 3:59 AM
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    Looks like you need to answer a very important question. What's more important, matching the color temperature or performance?
     
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  4. Jun 17, 2019 at 6:36 AM
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  5. Jun 17, 2019 at 10:09 AM
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    Post up some night pics when you get a chance!
     
  6. Jun 18, 2019 at 8:00 PM
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    Ya since majority of my night driving is in well lit city areas for these it's matching color temp. I have a LED bar stuffed in my lower grill for lighting up wooded areas and off paved areas. For the price the OEMs are not a huge expense. If I'm reading Crashburn80's charts properly they outperform the Morimotos as well so looks like a win win. For practical use of a fog light I would probably go the amber route: )
     
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  7. Jun 19, 2019 at 3:54 PM
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    Yupper. I went from OEM, to Morimotos, to (clear) KC's. In retrospect, the Morimotos were pretty lame. The KC's blow everything away.
     
  8. Jun 19, 2019 at 4:41 PM
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    @crashnburn80 what connector do you think this is for the gx470 fog light?
    Thanks

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  9. Jun 20, 2019 at 4:26 PM
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    I'm actually happy with my amber Morimoto fogs. They don't seem like much driving in a city with mostly HPSV lighting, but on highways and suburban roads, they light up a lot.
     
  10. Jun 20, 2019 at 4:30 PM
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    Looks like maybe an 893 fog? Easier to look up with year/make/model of the vehicle.
     
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    Looks like the same plug for Toyota side markers 98-2011
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  12. Jun 25, 2019 at 1:29 PM
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    Has anyone seen the 6" Rigid selective yellows? Ive been reading this thread many times, almost to many but with this good info its not a bad thing. I am thinking of running the dually sae in my bumper then two of the 6" selective when i need them in fog. Last two mornings we had a good bit of fog, stock fog lights are useless sadly, and hids are almost too bright. My other though was to get the white sae dually and use the amber cover as needed and get a set of A pillar mounts to put my dually driving beam on for extra light. Would love to see a dually with one row of white and one row of selective yellow, hell even the 30" driving bar split 50/50 white/amber so you can chose when needed.
     
  13. Jun 26, 2019 at 9:59 PM
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    The 6" Rigid lights have 6 LEDs vs the D-series pod 4 LEDs. They are basically 50% higher in output in all categories since they have 50% more LEDs.
     
  14. Jun 27, 2019 at 2:42 PM
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    I think ill order either the white or selective yellow for the fogs and get some a pillar mounts for the d2 driving lights i currently have on my other truck. Im between the white and selective yellow. I dont get much fog or dust in my area but we usually get rain its a lot, and not much snow. I know when i take the clear covers off my driving d2s and put the amber covers on it killed the light output a lot.
     
  15. Jun 27, 2019 at 11:04 PM
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    So, before you launch into my ghetto pod question I wanted to clarify I kind of just want a project and a simple place holder for good quality fog pods.

    That being said, I’m looking at these janky pods on Amazon I kind of want to check out. The description says flood beam and my concern is less of brightness (I live in the city) and more of I don’t want to blind people.

    What do you think? Worth the few bucks for a cheap project?

    Light Bar Senlips Yellow [2 Pack] 16W Amber Led Fog Lights, Led Flood Light Pods Off Road Driving Trucks Backup Lamp Work Lights for Jeep ATV SUV UTV https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HR6BCLQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TUAfDbPKGA2PP
     
  16. Jun 28, 2019 at 6:36 AM
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    Flood light will light everything with zero f#@%s to oncoming traffic. Not very good for a fog light if you are concerned about blinding others.
     
  17. Jun 28, 2019 at 6:41 AM
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    Those will not have a street legal cut off and will blind oncoming drivers. Save up a bit more and get the right pattern. Beats wasting money on something you can't use on the street, then paying a big ticket.
     
  18. Jun 28, 2019 at 12:20 PM
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    Those are definitely a no-go for street use. They will be exceptionally blinding even if not very bright, because it is a flood light. If you want a cheap selective yellow fog pod, you could take one of the cheap SAE fog pods from this thread, remove the face and lens and paint the lens with Duplicolor Metalcast paint as covered here below. However, note that most LEDs are high in color temp and really need an amber lens to get true yellow light. Even the LED pods you linked from Amazon are not going to produce yellow light with a yellow lens, it will be more green in color (blue + yellow = green), which is why Rigid and Baja use amber filters for yellow output.
    https://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/light_color/light_color.html

    Here is a quick google search result using the above technique with orange Metalcast orange for an amber lens.
    https://www.hondacivicforum.com/forum/general-civic-talk-16/diy-amber-cornerlights-85917/
     
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  19. Jun 28, 2019 at 2:29 PM
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    I was originally going to use one of your pods you listed in op, I just saw these and my cheap senses started tingling. I wasn’t sure if flood was an acceptable beam pattern or not mainly. I guess I’ll wait :-(
     
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    Anyone have a picture of the rigid sae white with the amber cover compared to the sae selective yellows? Id like to see how the compare, i want the white but for the random few times im in fog/snow i can just throw the amber covers on. Also is there a huge difference in rain? Thanks
     
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