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The LED SAE J583 Fog Pod & Fog Light Review

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by crashnburn80, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. Jun 26, 2019 at 9:59 PM
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    crashnburn80

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    The 6" Rigid lights have 6 LEDs vs the D-series pod 4 LEDs. They are basically 50% higher in output in all categories since they have 50% more LEDs.
     
  2. Jun 27, 2019 at 2:42 PM
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    I think ill order either the white or selective yellow for the fogs and get some a pillar mounts for the d2 driving lights i currently have on my other truck. Im between the white and selective yellow. I dont get much fog or dust in my area but we usually get rain its a lot, and not much snow. I know when i take the clear covers off my driving d2s and put the amber covers on it killed the light output a lot.
     
  3. Jun 27, 2019 at 11:04 PM
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    So, before you launch into my ghetto pod question I wanted to clarify I kind of just want a project and a simple place holder for good quality fog pods.

    That being said, I’m looking at these janky pods on Amazon I kind of want to check out. The description says flood beam and my concern is less of brightness (I live in the city) and more of I don’t want to blind people.

    What do you think? Worth the few bucks for a cheap project?

    Light Bar Senlips Yellow [2 Pack] 16W Amber Led Fog Lights, Led Flood Light Pods Off Road Driving Trucks Backup Lamp Work Lights for Jeep ATV SUV UTV https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HR6BCLQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TUAfDbPKGA2PP
     
  4. Jun 28, 2019 at 6:36 AM
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    Flood light will light everything with zero f#@%s to oncoming traffic. Not very good for a fog light if you are concerned about blinding others.
     
  5. Jun 28, 2019 at 6:41 AM
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    Those will not have a street legal cut off and will blind oncoming drivers. Save up a bit more and get the right pattern. Beats wasting money on something you can't use on the street, then paying a big ticket.
     
  6. Jun 28, 2019 at 12:20 PM
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    Those are definitely a no-go for street use. They will be exceptionally blinding even if not very bright, because it is a flood light. If you want a cheap selective yellow fog pod, you could take one of the cheap SAE fog pods from this thread, remove the face and lens and paint the lens with Duplicolor Metalcast paint as covered here below. However, note that most LEDs are high in color temp and really need an amber lens to get true yellow light. Even the LED pods you linked from Amazon are not going to produce yellow light with a yellow lens, it will be more green in color (blue + yellow = green), which is why Rigid and Baja use amber filters for yellow output.
    https://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/light_color/light_color.html

    Here is a quick google search result using the above technique with orange Metalcast orange for an amber lens.
    https://www.hondacivicforum.com/forum/general-civic-talk-16/diy-amber-cornerlights-85917/
     
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  7. Jun 28, 2019 at 2:29 PM
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    I was originally going to use one of your pods you listed in op, I just saw these and my cheap senses started tingling. I wasn’t sure if flood was an acceptable beam pattern or not mainly. I guess I’ll wait :-(
     
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  8. Jun 30, 2019 at 8:31 AM
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    Anyone have a picture of the rigid sae white with the amber cover compared to the sae selective yellows? Id like to see how the compare, i want the white but for the random few times im in fog/snow i can just throw the amber covers on. Also is there a huge difference in rain? Thanks
     
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  9. Jun 30, 2019 at 8:54 AM
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    Ideally you want comparison light source photos to have both light sources in the same photo to get an accurate representative comparison. I don’t have that for Rigid amber covers vs selective yellow Rigid’s. I do have separate photos.

    White Rigid vs w/ Amber cover

    upload_2019-6-30_8-41-51.jpg

    Selective yellow Rigid
    B143A707-3232-47E3-AFEC-303AC1A04FF3.jpg

    The selective yellow is a brighter yellow vs the amber covers which are a lower color temp closer to amber and not as bright.

    Note that using the covers in snow will likely lead to icing over of the pods. The best pod for ice resistance is the selective yellow Rigid’s as they currently are the only fog pod where the lens will get warm.

    See the prototype comparison here.
     
  10. Jun 30, 2019 at 8:59 AM
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    Thanks for the reply. We dont get much snow here in South Carolina but with mother nature you never know. With just trying to compare the overall brightness from the white with a cover to the selective yellow, did you see a major distance drop with the covers? I have a set of D2 driving pattern i had on my dodge, i had the clear covers just to protect them and amber covers. I threw the ambers on one morning going to work and it was almost like the lights where getting half the power to them. Im thinking of running the selective yellows in my fogs and get some a pillar mounts for the driving D2's. I am also waiting for you to test the Baja Designs sae lights, personally they look a bit better in the fog light holes but id rather have function over forum.
     
  11. Jun 30, 2019 at 9:07 AM
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    All the data is in that comparison link at the bottom of my previous post.

    Rigid lux comparisons:
    White: 395
    Selective yellow: 318
    Amber cover: 195

    So yes the amber covers do cut output nearly in half. I agree on the Baja form, I’m waiting to see what is best in selective yellow and will mount whatever is best on my truck.
     
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    I missed the link, was on my phone at the time. I guess i need to reread the thread again. I like how the Baja Designs are a tad bit cheaper for my truck and include the wiring adapter in the kit vs Rigid. Ill keep checking back for the Baja Designs review.
     
  13. Jul 1, 2019 at 4:56 PM
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    Just got the Baja Designs SAE fog tracking notification! Delivery Friday! :bananadance:
     
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  14. Jul 1, 2019 at 5:23 PM
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    How many times can I sub to a thread?!

    Seriously looking forward to the review
     
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    You and me both! My Rigid Rago mounts just showed up today too, holding off to see if I’ll need new Baja mounts instead. :D
     
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    Same here! Looking forward to your review.

     
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    Which color? Or both?
     
  18. Jul 1, 2019 at 8:36 PM
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    Both of course! ;)
     
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    Great, you already sold me on the KC G4’s in Amber and then you go and do this... haven’t even installed the KC’s yet!
     
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    Well at least you didn’t attack your plate bumper with a 4” hole saw...:anonymous:
    Because I’m maybe a little addicted and thought having 4 fogs I could use on the street was helpful

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