The Official Unofficial Super Pacific X1 Camper Thread

Poles are standard steel poles. And yes, that's what I'm going to change. More angle outward.

 

Don't you love all of us arm-chair Quarterbacks? Given the attention to detail you have had with your entire build, we should have known that you had already identified all of these potential issues.

Btw, how did the X1 Tundra look? Would have loved some pics considering that is what I'm rollin with. What was the color combo? I'm 99% sure I'll go with grey to match my Cement paint. I'm also seriously considering giving the X1 a coat of Monstaliner right from the start. I used it on my Camburg front bumper about 3 years ago and it has held up amazingly. That stuff is bulletproof!

 

I appreciate it! it is a blessing and a curse for sure. It's ok though, that's why I post it up in here to have it all out in the open and get feedback from everyone. Those were just the obvious critiques this time around.. and at least we're all on the same page! lol

the Tundra.. unfortunately it was a quick glance as we saw it pass us going the opposite direction. The blue SP logo gave it away.. but IIRC it was the new tan color on a sandstorm Tundra.

 

Ok, little hard to see and follow, but Grey lines are old (v1) and Brown lines are new (v2). I changed the v2 angled holes in 2 directions to give the poles more of an outward Axis to put more tension on the flap.

This is looking at the front face of the mount.



this is from the side/top.





Hard to see I know.. I'll make another set and take comparison photos of both the mounts and them holding the flap. I also adjusted the overall height to accommodate the change in angle. Since its a steeper angle, and the hole needed to remain the same depth, I added material to the height to drive them deeper to be able to keep the hole depth the same as the previous version. This also beefs of the walls of the part as I did see some deflection on the outside surface from the tension of the poles inside the holes. Same starting stock size, just an extra .155" taller, making the height protruding from the SP rail surface .875" vs the .720" of the previous version.... compromises..

 

I know for the rear flap on my CVT MtHood the pole holes are horizontal to the ground and you bend up the arms at a angle.

 

yep, thats how they all are. How my RTT ones were too. I'm trying to reduce that angle just due to the design. If I did a horizontal hole.. it would be ugly imo. The pyramid shape works great for these angled holes coming out of a flat surface.

 

Since you seem to know what you're doing, I thought I'd ask: I've always wondered if we might simply drill a hole like this into the thicker areas of the latch housing. There seems to be plenty of unused material there. Then we wouldn't have to crowd the t-slots (or be blocked by a rear awning, which is my issue.). What does the hive mind think?

 

Same with mine. They're horizontal to the ground AND they angle out from the side at about a 25-30 degree angle. It's quite a bend to get them attached, which provides the stability to prevent (most) flapping in the wind.

 

well, without going too much into it, I am working on another solution that would use the latch corners and utilize existing hardware and features. Pretty much for the same reason.. to just eliminate the need of that space or lack there of depending. its more involved, but would be more permanent and out of the way and also be able to accommodate some other features. I thought about just bailing on these little guys and focusing on that one.. but I already have time into these and they are close so just kind of want to finish out the project. Then go all in on this other one while I have a temp solution for our tent.

I'm trying to find that balance point of the tension needed while being able to use this design/aesthetic. Cant make it perfectly horizontal because of the hardware in the middle. cant angle it too much either because I'm limited on size/design. This next revision should help a lot.

 

Exactly. The pole mounts are quite big on the Mt Hood

 

grey old, red new.

top view, adjustment should make direction of pull/tension more outward.



side view, should do the same thing.. put more pull/tension outward.




in theory anyways... lol

 

I've only had it in snow a few times, but have had a couple weeks in sub-freezing temps. The tent fabric is noticeably stiffer in those conditions than it is in warm temps, but it wasn't a big deal to close the camper. It just took a little more effort to get it tucked in. I'd say the main tent panels don't breathe well. But there are vents up high on 3 sides of the tent that you can open which help a lot to provide some airflow and keep condensation at bay.

 

As I understand it, as a single wall tent the panels aren't supposed to breathe at all. That's why the unique SP vents are up there. Please correct if I'm wrong.

 

I've camped in several storms at this point. You do have to brush out the rails, especially by the hinges which can ice up but I haven't had an issue. Definitely need to spray the latches with some kind of lube, garage door silicon spray has worked fantastically for me - they never ice up now but did when I got it initially. Fabric gets a little stiff but not really an issue. I also don't keep bedding on the mattress which helps. The little vents with the pull tabs work amazingly well since you can micro-adjust the velcro to get how much venting you need. There will still be some icing on the metal frame which can melt and drip when the sun comes out but not really that big an issue if the mattress gets a little wet.

I have a propex hs2000 heater and it adds 30-40 degrees of warmth so enough to stay above freezing but not van-comfort levels. Working on a thermal pack for next ski season.

 

Same experience in snow. Two winters of camping in my x1 now. The fabric can get stiff so I make sure to take my bedding downstairs to give it the right amount of space. Always brush out the rails but otherwise that’s the only issue.

There is a product under development that will help with this issue (and keep you warmer) next winter.

 

What’s the product idea?

 

Insulation kit

 

Yeah the SP guys mentioned that when I picked mine up in February but I'm going to DIY it. They said theirs would be external and help with the snow in the rails issues. I'm going with inside and using a quilted synthetic insulation + stick on velcro. Cutouts for the vents will be key.

 

keep me posted. Internal appeals more to me but I also want to see what Pete dreams up!

 

Materials just shipped and I have zero sewing experience so it's gonna be a while haha.