The SKINNY on skinny tires

Right on. I wanted to try the new KM3, but they didnt have this size. Let me know how you like the BFGs, it was a toss up for me. I just picked the tire I've had before.

 

Ok thanks for the reply.

 

255/85-16 being put on!!!

 

Will these fit without trimming?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BphkKR3H3yJ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=tzba5g4i1xhe

 

Are 235s to sKinny with spacers on 1st gen extended?

 

I understand this is a old argument and I don't mean to argue here as I agree with most of what you have stated. In snow however (idk about deep tundra snow but what we get here in the lower 48 mainly) I saw the difference and have experienced it first hand. The more narrow tires get better traction. Look at the older deuce and ahalfs and 5 tons the millitary ran. With dual wheels in the rear giveing a wider surface area they wuld get stuck rather easily when they switched to super singes that issue went away. I was stationed in Co so we saw quite a bit of snow. When I had my Jeep I had 15.5" wide tires and in the snow it would slide all over the place so when winter came I started switching over to skinnier tires and they cut right through the snow and i never had the problem again. I run a skinny now and have had them in all your previously mentioned conditions except sand and can say they have woked wondefully so far.

 

The type of tire makes a bigger impact than the size. Your 15.5 wide tires on your jeep are terrible in hard pack snow and ice because they are a mud terrain which is arguably the worst type of environment for them to be in. However if you take a Blizzak and make it 15.5" wide it will vastly outperform a skinnier blizzak.

Since ground pressure directly affects traction, increasing it increases traction on hardpack. No different that increased downforce on a race car, the more downforce you have the better cornering it can perform.The advantage of the skinny tire in hardback is the increased ground pressure. Ice on the otherdand needs siping to gain traction, more siping the better, reduced ground pressure and increased siping is better for ice.

I have traversed 3' of snow up Apex road near Rollins Pass CO and would not have made it running a skinny tire or a snow tire. In deep powder I needed a wide biting tire and rediced ground pressure. Hardpack and ice are the opposite.

I'm assuming you were stationed at Ft. Carson? I grew up outside Rollins Pass which sits around 9500 feet.

 

Living in canada, I respectfully disagree. A 2wd civic with skinny blizzaks will go past jacked up 4x4's with big balloon tires.The only thing that bites on ice are studs.

 

Bullshit, will call bulshit all day. How can you disagree when you literally agreed with my point that snow tires are best and mud tires suck.

This is your comment in a nutshell, "I disagree but agree"

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Dont bother with the snow vs mud tire debate, thats not what this thread is.

 

Big wide tires slide around on top of packed snow and ice, siped or not. If you're trekking to the North Pole and need to stay afloat of 10' of powder, that's another story.

It's not bullshit, I drove around on snow and ice for half my adult life. Skinny tires dig and grip, I've seen it and experienced it from the passenger seat and driver seat 1000 times.

 

Yep Carson. Nice area once you get away from the city, I’m just not a city person. I’ve done the deep snow hell we even get it here in Va occasionally 3’ or so but rarely. Idk whatcthe real answer is here I admitt I have no experience with a “true” snow tire. I do have alot of experience with tracks, however, and the uses of lgp or “ low ground preasure” as compared to standard. I used to have to regularly tear them down and rebuild them. As I neant before I have no desire for any argument or disrespect at my age it’s not worth the time. I am a firm believer in useing what works best for you and be happy. I may go back to a wider tire in the future as these are my first real venture into the “skinny” tire realm but they have worked fantastic in any condition I have put them in so far.

 

Thanks for agreeing with me again. No manufacturer makes large siped tires, So you can’t say siped or not. Trust me I looked because I need a 35” snow tire.

 

I finally get to post on this thread

 

Has anyone gone with
235/80R17??
I was thinking about these, with either Cooper Discoverer A/t3 lt or Nitto Terra Grappler G@

 

Yes, I bought these tires as well and put them on the truck on Sunday Nov 4 while the weather in Southwestern Ontario was still mild.
This will be the first winter running these tires.
The issue with my '09 truck has always been with braking and turning corners in slush.
The factory A20 Dunlops and the Cooper Discoverer M+S in 245/75R16 worked well in the snow and on ice but they did not perform well in the brown slush.
If these tall skinny heavy tires can't do it then I'm back to popping the hood and disconnecting one of the front ABS wheel sensor connections and do it my way.

 

What price?

 

I bought mine from 1010TIRES.com in May 2018.
The price then was $301.99 each.
The total was $1422.01 including shipping, environmental levy and HST.

Expensive snow tires yes.

The Toyo Observe GSi-5 Tires 285/70R17 I bought for the summer rims were only $229.99 each and they have poor traction on wet roads from a standing start.

34 PSI seems about right for the M55 in city and highway driving on dry or wet pavement with 4.10 gears.

 

$280 a tire from 1010tires.com

 

I get slight rub at full lock with mine in reverse (same size). Any of that for you? CMC is coming shortly

 

Did you lift it any? I have a pro so when I say 2" lift in the front its actually 3" over a stock try because of the fox suspension so that might have something to do with it. I don't get any rub at full lock either direction the only rub I get is on the mud flap going into or coming out of my driveway which is a steep incline but it just barely hits it. I drive a lot of dirt roads for work so it is not bad enough for me to remove them I would wrather protect my paint.