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The ultimate headlight upgrade H4 (not LED or HID)

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by crashnburn80, Oct 27, 2015.

  1. Apr 21, 2021 at 10:28 AM
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    If we’re talking that blank wall behind the toys, I think a nice dogs playing pool painting would do nicely :rolleyes:
     
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    Pretty much only buy white vehicles. I think I have owned 10-12 now. Two silver
     
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    Primarily the matching white Tacoma and T4R but also walls, ceiling, door, floor. Ultimately it boils down to me reading Frozen so many times that I’m starting to talk like Olaf.
     
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    Beware of Goose!
     
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    That Goose is the bringer of Judgement
     
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    Lol I can only reread your original comment now in Olaf’s voice
     
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    Fact: What’s Good for the Goose is good for the Gander. :)
     
  8. Apr 21, 2021 at 3:42 PM
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    Just finished this upgrade to the Osram lights and the Headlight service’s harness. Incredible difference in output, very happy with it and was very simple to do. 20 minutes.
     
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    I still haven't driven my truck at night since this mod. Makes me realize how little I drive these days.
     
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    Gonna clean up my headlights and apply some UV protection on them this weekend. Hopefully will have truck running by Monday!
     
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    @crashnburn80 just found this thread and thankful that you took the time to provide us all with such great info and product review. very much appreciated. determining my ground wiring: i have a 2011. did toyota mix n match which system they used for 2nd gens (conventional vs ground switched) or is it known that they had been switched to conventional when entering the 2nd generation? i read the part where you determined how to test for the one you have. just curious if there was a point where all trucks were switched to conventional at some point. thanks again!
     
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    No joke. He can be very intimidating. It took me almost a year to feel confident enough to "discipline him". From time to time he needs to be corrected especially in the spring when he acts like a complete asshole.
     
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    Your goose and the story that goes along with it deserves it's own thread!
     
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    As long as your truck is not from Canada and does not have headlight DRLs (where you cannot turn the headlights off), your truck should be conventionally/power switched. You'll need this harness:
    https://www.headlightservices.com/Wiring.html
     
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    I second that
     
  18. Apr 22, 2021 at 11:00 PM
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    I received a question on best 9008/H13s which are common in many US SUVs/Trucks. I thought it would be beneficial to copy/paste the response here for general benefit:
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    Ugh, H13s. H13 don't have a lot of high performance options since the 9008/H13 is primarily used domestically and not in Europe. Note that 9008=H13. There isn't anything like a higher power bulb, or a bulb swap to improve performance.

    The 3 options I would consider:
    Volsa +120 <-These are hard to find
    Philips Xtreme +100
    Hella Performance 2.0

    I had intended testing the Philips vs Volsa H13s in a Ram, but the Philips bulbs exploded. WTF. Must have been some kind of defect, I wouldn't have that deter from buying them again though as I've run them in other vehicles. The Volsa +120s are more traditional halogen color than the Philips, which is only slightly whiter than stock. The Hella Performance 2.0s are coated, but it is a very light coating minimizing the loss (lighter than the pictures make it appear), and in testing the H9 version they did well covered in post #1577 here. They are listed at 3700k, my testing puts them at about 3500k, the stock H9 was about 3300k. By comparison most coated bulbs like silverstars are over 4000k, where you start to take significant losses.

    The Philips Xtreme are likely the sweet spot. If wanting slightly whiter light, I wouldn't feel bad about running the Hella performance 2.0s. I would then consider adding a standalone HD wiring harness to boost H13 output if looking for a little more. You'll gain something like 8-15% for any halogen bulb you run, though I cannot say an exact number since I haven't tested the voltage drop on that vehicle.

    I haven't used these guys before but they make H13 HD harnesses, opt for the 12 gauge power wire size if going this route to maximize the output.
    https://www.aspireautoaccessories.com/product-page/9008-heavy-duty-headlight-relay-harness
     
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  19. Apr 24, 2021 at 5:21 PM
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    Got mine today!
     
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  20. Apr 29, 2021 at 9:26 AM
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    In the past when I had a couple F150's I ran the Philips Xtreme and it worked very well. I did not do a different harness as this was long before I was this deep into lighting. However I did notice the biggest upgrade on those trucks was upgrading the fog light bulbs, 9145 to h11. Can't recall the bulb I used anymore though.
     
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