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Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by nibster11111, Jan 19, 2017.

  1. Jan 20, 2017 at 4:45 AM
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    If you read, I said brighter in person. Also have them adjusted down. You can come see them in person and I guarantee they will beat any light set up you can find
     
  2. Jan 20, 2017 at 4:55 AM
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    They are pointed down. But they still go a long ways. I've looked at the picture and I realize it's the shitty camera quality not capturing all the light. I'll try to find a better camera and get a better picture. I know for a fact mine will beat anything out there. I've tested against friends and random people and mine win every time. The picture does it no justice at all. And I have them adjusted down because because keep bright lighting me. Now they don't. I actually improved the light distance when I did this. It's not like I pointed them straight down, just out of eye line. I swear, if someone can show me in person that theirs are better, I'll shut up and praise them. But until then, I believe mine are the best. I've bought close to 15 different halogen, xenon setups and these LEDs are by far the best.
     
  3. Jan 20, 2017 at 6:42 AM
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    its a Toyota truck and that's all the modifications needed
    the big issue I have with using upgraded heavy duty harness with higher wattage bulbs is the bulb life itself, not the performance. a normal generic h4 halogen is rated for over 1000 hours, while most of the high wattage or high wattage with harness probably 250-to max 500 hours? depending on how often you use them.my question would be what added performance when generic 60/55 h4 bulbs have a HD wiring harness to them for added voltage? If there is significant added output to the generic H4 bulbs then the cost factor of reducing operating hours would be justified, and using a non-High Wattage bulb also would be more DOT friendly, than the for Off road use only 100w plus types. I would assume the HD harness will make the 60/55 H4 burn brighter than the stock harness, therefore more usable light at lower operating hours, which would be cool since they are less costlier to replace and easier to purchase than the high wattage Off road bulbs.
     
  4. Jan 20, 2017 at 7:22 AM
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    LEDs are normally rated 50,000 hours
     
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    You'd REALLY like them if you had them in a proper set of retrofitted projector headlamp housings... As well as the folks driving the opposite way when you're using your lights. ;):D
     
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  6. Jan 20, 2017 at 8:21 AM
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    doubt it.
     
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  7. Jan 20, 2017 at 9:54 AM
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    So wait, you're telling us you improved the light distance by pointing them down? That's literally impossible.

    Sorry dude, it's not your camera. You can clearly see the brightest portion of the light is maybe 4 car lengths ahead of you, and that's with your brights on, at 23mph. There's a ton of bright light getting thrown everywhere else, too, which seems nice, but again, that's why you had to re-aim your lights down. Good lights will have a very stark cut-off beam pattern, so that you can throw a whole ton of light in a very specific direction: as far down the road as possible without getting in people's eyes. For your setup, that appears to be about 4 car lengths, with smeared dimmer light everywhere else.

    As others said, you should NEVER have to re-aim your headlights after installing new bulbs in your OEM housings.

    The reason you feel yours are better is because you are only looking at their brightness, and yours are certainly way brighter than my lights. But until you look at *where* that light is getting thrown, and how scattered it is, you'll always feel yours are better.
     
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  8. Jan 20, 2017 at 11:29 AM
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    Why would I waste my time? You've already stated that they're so bright that you had to angle them way down so that you don't get flashed. That tells me that the cutoff on them sucks, if they even have a cutout (let us know when you're ready to post a pic of the cutoff against a wall). The compromise that you've made to live with the crappy beam pattern is to angle them downwards, reducing their effectiveness.

    There's more to headlight design than just throwing lumens down the road. I would love to be able drop in a good quality LED replacement into my truck and be done with it. Well, except that LED's don't typically do very well if snow or ice is a concern. The problem is that most of the LED headlight products on the market are crap. It comes down to a fundamental difference between how an LED and filament bulb puts out light and it's difficult to make one work well in a reflector designed for the other. If it was truly a drop in replacement you shouldn't have to do anything to your adjustment.

    Want better headlight performance? Here's four simple steps:

    1. Upgrade your headlight harness
    2. Keep your headlights polished
    3. Buy a quality, non-tinted bulb and don't touch the glass on install
    4. Clean your windshield, inside and out

    FWIW, these are the bulbs I'm running:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U1OLK86/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
     
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    This halogen upgrade and retros are about the only thing i recommend for headlight upgrades. Morimoto just came out with some led bulbs that are supposed to work in reflector housings well but i havent heard anything about them yet.

    I still think the only way to get loads of light and keep a perfect cutoff is projectors. Even with 55watt hids they keep a clean cutoff and the light output is ridiculous. (pics are 35watt but still crazy bright)

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    its a Toyota truck and that's all the modifications needed
    ilike your idea on better headlight performance using HD harness with Philips H4 halogens, what brand HD Harness are you using?
     
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    I got mine through SUVlights.com, but they're not around anymore. If I had to do it again I'd get in touch with these guys: http://www.headlightservices.com/Wiring.html
     
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    its a Toyota truck and that's all the modifications needed
    that place is very cool, there is even a kit they offer so that you can make your own H4 harness with all the necessary parts,relays in it for $55 with wiring diagram. thanx for the link
     
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    To answer your question, the 2nd gen sees 0.4-0.5v increase at the bulb using the harness. Comparing that to the voltage chart on the headlight services page referenced below, looks like about a 14% lumen increase over stock.

     
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    I wish I could see what the 14% improvement looks like it doesn't sound like much, I would guess doing the HD harness would really be effective using higher wattage h4 bulbs as opposed to using the standard h4, a lot of give and takes to consider theres not really 1 smoking gun mod to improve the headlights that mimics the standard setup in the bulbs operating hours, with higher performance, the brighter the burn the less hours the bulb lasts.
     
  15. Jan 21, 2017 at 4:45 PM
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    Looks a lot further than 3 car lengths. Maybe you shouldn't jump to telling people they are wrong. Finally got pictures

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    We want to see the low beams.
     
  17. Jan 21, 2017 at 4:48 PM
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    I forgot to label them. The bottom is low beam and the top is high
     
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    Dear god. Theres basically no distinguishable cutoff between high and low beams.
     
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    The low beam isn't as wide I guess
     
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    This is exactly why we hate on LED fan boys. Yeah, they are bright but they hit everything including the rear view of every car in front of you and every oncoming driver in the eyes. And the lows look brighter than the highs. That's nothing to brag about.
     
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