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Thinking of selling my 2017 2.7L manual for 60 or 80 series Landcruiser. Anyone have a LC here?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by radclerk1, Jul 1, 2022.

  1. Jul 1, 2022 at 6:33 PM
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    Kamille.bidan

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    You can’t just buy a FJ80. Those things are getting really expensive. I’d wager to say that the vast majority are still running with no issues.

    there is a guy that has done EV conversion. Google it
     
  2. Jul 1, 2022 at 6:42 PM
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    Why would you say the majority are still running with no issues? They can have head gasket issues and plenty of them went to the scrapyard or were neglected when their values tanked.

    If anything I see first gen Tacomas going for more than old Land Cruisers around here.
     
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  3. Jul 1, 2022 at 6:56 PM
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    Matter of fact here’s a mint one that’s been sitting for weeks. Price just dropped to 13k..
     
  4. Jul 1, 2022 at 8:12 PM
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    fj80s?

    I’m not sure what you are seeing. They are hot item over here.
     
  5. Jul 1, 2022 at 9:00 PM
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    I can’t see the link. That is cheap for a mint one.

    Is it the second refreshed engine? Is it triple locked?
     
  6. Jul 1, 2022 at 9:03 PM
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    Original AFAIK and CDL only
     
  7. Jul 1, 2022 at 9:05 PM
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    Well around here at least they tend to sit for weeks. They only sell quick for well under 10 grand.

    Seems like Tacomas are in higher demand here.
     
  8. Jul 2, 2022 at 4:25 AM
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    If you plan to daily drive either one, get an FZJ80 (1993-1997). The 1FZ-FE has more power than the 2F/3F/3FE, and is smooth as silk. Just make sure PHH is done or plan to do it, along with all other typical checks. Also for DD, the coil-sprung 80's are a quite nice ride. Don't expect more than 13mpg (on a good day) in either one. I had a '95 FZJ80 triple-locked and it was the best vehicle I ever owned, still regret selling it (and the new owner is still driving it around Alaska w/ 355k miles on it w/o the engine ever being opened up).

    If you don't plan to DD, buy whichever one hits the right notes for you.
     
  9. Jul 2, 2022 at 5:32 AM
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    Check build thread!
    Get an 80 over a 60 for daily duty. Otherwise, send it. Dream rig.
     
  10. Jul 2, 2022 at 6:04 AM
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    Sold my 2017 pro for a 1995 JDM HDJ81 diesel cruiser.

    I cant express how much better the powerplant is compared to the 3.5 in the taco. Yes it will get smoked by the taco in a race, but the cruiser feels like a proper truck. You know, Actual torque everywhere. Id say on the highway or in a climb, the cruiser does better than the taco.

    I dont regret it one bit. Give it a good baseline and its just as good as a newer taco.

    Daily driver and well insured.
    I get 18 city 22 hwy on a 3 inch lift, on 35 inch tires, and with and ARB front bumper with winch. Factory dual batteries and factory 3x locked. Lots of weight.

    There is no comparison between a 80 series and and a taco when it comes to robustness, simplicity and quality. I guess the taco is new so that evens it out, but lets see that taco in 27 years...

    I also have a gasser 80 series. Ask me anything.
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    How long did you have that 6MT Pro for? We’re looking at getting a 100 series but I still want to keep the truck
     
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    I had the taco for about 4 years since new. I loved my taco but was never happy with the engine. When the whole price crazyness hit, I sold it to Vroom and got the cruiser at a "discount" because you drive it from the wrong side(Right hand drive). Its easy to get used to and visibility is something else in these trucks. The taco seemed to have a pretty squashed cab and windows.

    My father has a 100 series. Lexus badge. It will do 90% of what an 80 series will do offroad, but with much greater comfort, safety and power. Id say its even more practical than an 80 for everyday use.
     
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    Hard to not look at selling prices these days. Things are crazy.

    For us the 100 would be a kid mobile. Doubt it would ever leave the pavement
     
  14. Jul 2, 2022 at 6:40 AM
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    They absolutely eat highway miles. That 4.7 V8 is arguably one of toyotas best engines ever. Its not unusual to see them well past 300K. I have personally seen one with 480k, unopened, still being driven. They do drink fuel though. Expect about 12 city and 16 highway.
     
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    Ye the 2UZ had to be the best engine Toyota ever made. Liquid-smooth, powerful, and doesn’t leak and burn oil like the old straight-six.

    If only we could’ve gotten it on the 80 series.
     
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    I went to a Toyota meet yesterday, and I saw the most impressive FJ80 I have ever seen my entire life.

    1) completely custom interior that looked like a RV including a sink.

    2) straight six turbo Diesel swap imported from Africa. Apparently, it was from some historically significant Land Cruiser that parted out. Apparently, it’s registered free and clear in CA.

    3) converted to part time 4wd
    4) Manual transmission.

    He had a German accent, and the car just had that German organization and attention to detail.

    I loved it. It contrasted pretty well against the dozens of TRD “Bro” 3rd gens and 5th 4Runners— those trucks are getting tiresome.

    I wish I took pictures.

    I couldnot believe what I was seeing.


    The dudes next car was a LC trooper. Unbelievable.
     
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    Anyway OP why do you want to make the switch? The 80 series is a tough classic vehicle, but it’s also a heavy brute with a primitive drivetrain. IME they tend to wander all over the road with that sloppy recirculating ball steering and solid front axle, and it will also be way slower than your 2017 Tacoma especially with that antique 4 speed slushbox.

    People will wax lyrical about the superior quality but after 25+ years they are falling apart anyway.

    And weighing nearly three tons I’ve found they will get stuck and hung up a lot easier on trails than a Tacoma or minitruck. I’ve seen them struggle to get out of their own way on trails in Colorado and here in Arkansas.

    All that said they will take abuse like little else. Old Land Cruisers were designed to haul people and gear over unimproved dirt roads in the global south where gas is cheap and plentiful, and they do that rather well.
     
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    I'm starting to think your 80 really is in very poor shape, cause mine doesn't have any of those issues. I pull my trailer regularly with the "primitive" inline six (that offers the same engine management design and features as the 1st gen tacomas) and the larger 4 speed auto and she gets up and moves, stays in the lane with ease, and mine doesn't lumber around over obstacles or anything. I do wheel my tacoma more than my 80, but I like to go very fast on trails and prefer to live out of a truck bed, it is hard to deny that hucking a 5700lb lifted short wheelbase vehicle in a corner cause it's dangerous.
     
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    i think new bushings and TREs would help a lot in mine honestly. Inspected for frame cracks around the sbox and didn’t see any.

    The power is ok but I usually need 2nd for grades unless I’m already on the highway. The A343f is a real joy killer for me, especially off-road.

    It seems to lose traction and spin the wheels a lot sooner than the Tacoma on even easy obstacles.
     
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    Your experience with the FJ80 seems really different from what I have seen personally.

    All the ones I have seen were in solid condition with minimal repairs. Might be because I am California.
     

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