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Third generation Tacoma engine? Maybe?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Boring, Nov 25, 2010.

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I like the idea of a factory DI turbocharged Tacoma

Poll closed Dec 25, 2010.
  1. Yes

    81 vote(s)
    66.4%
  2. No

    15 vote(s)
    12.3%
  3. I don't know. Maybe.

    26 vote(s)
    21.3%
  1. Nov 25, 2010 at 11:58 AM
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    Boring

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    I had to guess where to post this, but I thought there would be some interest in here.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/22/report-toyota-plans-to-add-turbo-direct-injection-to-most-of-l/

    I hope this applies and it's done well. It could be a very good thing. I'm dreaming of a 5 or 6 speed automatic with a 2.2 L turbocharged direct injected 4 cylinder making 220 HP and still getting 30 MPG. The cost would probably go up at least $1000, but it would be worth it to me.

    We'll have to wait and see what actually happens. There's some resistance to going turbo and DI, but if you get more power and better mileage it makes a lot of sense to me. Hopefully they've wrung out most of the problems with DI carbon buildup by now. Before anyone immediately jumps on the anti-turbo bandwagon, go look at the torque curve for one of these new engines. Flat.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_EcoBoost_engine

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Family_II_engine#LNF

    http://green.autoblog.com/2009/05/15/first-drive-2010-lincoln-mkt-ecoboost-and-mks-ecoboost/
    Ecoboost V6 torque "curve" shown.
     
  2. Nov 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM
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    DionysiosA76

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    Why dont they just offer the 3.0L D4-D like they do in europe? That thing is awesome and burns next to nothing!
     
  3. Nov 25, 2010 at 12:10 PM
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    cummins6speed

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    A factory turbo engine would be nice but I would rather have a turbo diesel in a tacoma
     
  4. Nov 25, 2010 at 12:12 PM
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    Because US environmental laws make small diesels prohibitively expensive. See: Jetta TDI.

    Next gen Taco will get the Dual-VVT-i 4.0L and the same 2.7L it has now.
     
  5. Nov 25, 2010 at 12:13 PM
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    KodiakToyTRD

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    I'd like to see someone take the Tacoma and do things to it like SVT and Saleen have done with Ford...haha. See what magic comes out of that! But if I was a 4 banger guy, that sounds like a sweet deal for a small x-runner.
     
  6. Nov 25, 2010 at 12:15 PM
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    TRD does custom Tacos for SEMA all the time.
     
  7. Nov 25, 2010 at 12:28 PM
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    But isn't TRD part of Toyota? Such as SVT is part of Ford? Where as Saleen is separate entity....I think thats how it works unless I'm talking outta my ass...which happens. :anonymous:

    I'm just dreaming about more advanced performance options...:burnrubber:
     
  8. Nov 25, 2010 at 3:09 PM
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    I can see it now. A Brabus Tacoma with 631hp.

    Edit - The problem still remains that the more you tune an engine the more shit goes wrong with it. Why do you think those old Toyotas are still running around today? Over built, under tuned. Less wear on parts on a simple engine means the little fucker will do 0-60 at a snails pace, but it's only been in the shop for tire rotations, and oil changes.
     
  9. Nov 25, 2010 at 3:50 PM
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  10. Nov 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM
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    All this is very true! I don't know what I'd do with a 631hp Taco. :spy:
     
  11. Nov 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM
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    The Autoblog article really got me all excited, but the more I analyze it, the less hope I have... Maybe one of the new models they're introducing is a smaller truck to replace the 1st generation Tacoma. Pure guessing now.
     
  12. Nov 25, 2010 at 7:48 PM
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    +10000000000000 toyota needs to offer a diesel option across the tacoma model range in the us. if they offered it when i bought my truck i'd be driving a diesel right now. toyota + small turbo diesel = epic win in every way!!!!
     
  13. Nov 26, 2010 at 5:58 AM
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    the amount of fuel you could save would off set the emissions that a diesel mill would produce right? and being the largest auto maker in the world you would think that toyota could look into clean diesel technology urea injection. i would have paid for this in my regular cab for sure. it would absolutely increase the price of the truck but it would be worth it. plus they already have a proven engine that they could start with they use it in the hilux lol i don't get it. bmw, vw, now mazda, and almost every other truck manufacture offers a diesel option albeit on select models but they still offer it.
     
  15. Nov 26, 2010 at 2:46 PM
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    I would be happy if they would just give us back our compact 1st generation Taco w/either the 2.4 or 2.7..........
     
  16. Nov 26, 2010 at 2:47 PM
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  18. Dec 1, 2010 at 4:37 PM
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    meh
    I would like a diesel though. If Cali is the problem there are two solutions. Slide the whole state into the ocean or just don't sell the diesel there.
     
  19. Dec 1, 2010 at 10:18 PM
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  20. Dec 1, 2010 at 11:11 PM
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    I know a guy who has a full size Chevy duramax 3/4 ton that gets 18mpg on PA back roads. One reason we dont have alot of diesels in the US is because of payoffs, the oil company wouldn't make as much money. Gasoline DI is a big step better, alot more efficiency and an added bonus is more power too. If our 4.0l's were DI and DVVT they would probably get over 20mpg and easily make 300hp.
     
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