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This is a Hydrogen installation kit, with installation video

Discussion in 'General Tacoma Talk' started by Operxtor.exe, May 27, 2024.

  1. May 27, 2024 at 11:26 AM
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    Operxtor.exe

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    I want to know if anyone has ever installed this kit, or a similar kit to your Tacoma ?? The install looks very simple, if you have installed. what have been your pro/cons to the install if any ??

    https://youtu.be/91x2i3yM5o8?si=u6MoHkwgtvUoq1oG
     
  2. May 27, 2024 at 11:41 AM
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  3. May 27, 2024 at 11:53 AM
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    Doesn't answer my question.
     
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    My first question is where do you plan to source your hydrogen? It's expensive to make and difficult to keep stored as it is the smallest of all molecules. I can't see a world where the cost-benefit makes sense for a passenger vehicle. There are heavy duty applications for hydrogen but they don't make sense for the general consumer. I think CA is the only state with hydrogen stations for POVs and there are less than 10 now.
     
  5. May 27, 2024 at 12:01 PM
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    Fair question, I know you can make your own mixture. Its just distilled water, hydrogen sodium or bicarbonate and whatever else he man said in video. Also others who have installed it similarly have showed there process. It takes a lil bit of searching to find. I asking for people who have done it. Not interested in the negatives because I may try this and see what happens.
     
  6. May 27, 2024 at 12:02 PM
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    If you're truly not interested in negatives I'd stay off the internet.

    I'm not trying to be negative anyhow, but I am a realistic person. Can I ask what you hope to gain by doing this?
     
  7. May 27, 2024 at 12:04 PM
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    I have not installed that kit, or any similar kit, on my Tacoma.
    If you want pros/cons based on actually installed kits on a Tacoma. Good luck.

    Asking your question on this forum (or any) isn't likely going to give you the answer you need or want to hear.

    I will say, I do not like seeing people waste their money.
    I'd encourage you to do your own research on what the kit does and DOESN'T do.
     
  8. May 27, 2024 at 12:06 PM
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    To gain better mpg and to try develop another source of fuel. I think hydro/gas fueled Tacomas are possible and may very well live among us in this forum. Some one somewhere knows about this very thing.

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  9. May 27, 2024 at 12:12 PM
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    Don't worry this is for research purposes.
     
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  11. May 27, 2024 at 12:13 PM
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    No but Saturday is the new Sunday and Sunday is the new Monday.
     
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    I see.

    I'm all for testing a research.
    The biggest issue is, It's hard to find an unbiased test.
    And I'm not willing or interested in trying it myself.

    There are a few test I've seen on similar products.
    And all that were NOT in the business of selling the kit, concluded that it did nothing to help MPG.
    And I am of the opinion, that more is NOT better. If it serves no purpose, I don't want it.
    I don't want any more items that can fail and cause an issue later.

    BTW, you'll need to have a way keep the water warm in freezing climates.
    I'll let you read about that. It's not as simple as it sounds.
     
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    The biggest issue is the volatility of hydrogen. If you're actually generating anything close to pure that stuff is hard to handle. OP try not to blow yourself up please.
     
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    Sounds like a sweet scam. If car manufacturers could increase fuel economy by 20% with a $800 gimmick don't you think it would be everywhere? All the worry about higher fuel economy and lower emissions standards would be a thing of the past. Maybe couple this with an intake vornado insert and some whistle tips for the ultimate 30mpg Tacoma build.
     
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    Hydrogen production through electrolysis will always result in lower fuel economy because your alternator will be working harder to create it which will offset any efficiency gains. Conservation of energy.

    This seems to cycle the internet every 3 years and has been beat to death.

    I'm not even sure by what mechanism this would gain efficiency since hydrogen is fractions of what gasoline is and it would be going in the air line...So, reducing fuel trims by a fraction of %? You'd be better off doing water injection to gain more ignition advance.
     
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    Oh come on people. Don't you know hydrogen is what makes 1.21 Gigawatts possible?
     
  18. May 27, 2024 at 12:29 PM
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    The hydrogen (and probably oxygen?) is produced by breaking down the solution of water and sodium hydroxide. I don't know if he's boiling it off or what and I don't know what byproduct will be left over. I haven't studied chemistry since high school (almost 50 years ago).

    If it were some magical fuel enhancer, why haven't the auto makers, who are bound by the EPA to get better and better fuel mileage, adopted something of this nature already? Probably because it isn't practical.

    Way back, there were some that said there was this magical carburetor that would give you 60+ mpg in your car. After that, it was the swirly adapter that would do the same when placed behind your throttle body. It was all bullshit, just like this.
     
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    On top of all everything that has been said, did anyone notice that you hook this thing directly to the battery and there is no in-line fuse? I wonder if there have been any reported fires from this thing.
     
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    Yeah you're on the right track for sure. You get a clean stream of oxygen and hydrogen when you split purified water through an electrolyzer or PEM. There is no magic enhancer as you have rightly posited.
     
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