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This is BS, Im done with Amsoil!!!

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by Bones308, Oct 13, 2011.

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  1. Nov 1, 2011 at 3:33 AM
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    HMA

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    What in the hell is an "MLM"?
     
  2. Nov 1, 2011 at 7:13 AM
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    Can we just lock this thread? It is now just a crusade by arrrghhh against John Adams. At this point the OP's original requests is not address and based on the fact he seems to have moved on no need to keep up a debate of nothing. arrrghhh we all understand that you hate Aimsoil and buy whatever product you prefer. Those that want to buy it I think you have not given any proof to persuade them not to purchase it.
     
  3. Nov 1, 2011 at 8:41 AM
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    I encourage you both read this article. USAF and other businesses are NOT MLM's.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing

    I don't have anything to say negatively about their products - those who use them seem to like them. Between the outlandish claims on their website and their business structure, I can't in my right mind support them.

    Probably should be closed tho, this has gone way off topic from the OP.
     
  4. Nov 1, 2011 at 9:28 AM
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    lol, head office is on the case now. I'm so glad I buy my oil by the case at Costco. Pretty freakin' hard for scammers to open and reseal the cardboard box with bogus product.
     
  5. Nov 1, 2011 at 9:54 AM
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    I just use plan old mobile 1 myself. But I do check it to make sure the aluminum foil is till in tact and not molested. I have never had this issue with getting someone else's used oil. And arrrgh no offence was given to you. Just don't think either one of you are going to win the debate and as long as the oil servers a purpose, I do not see why folks get so bent out of shape.
     
  6. Nov 1, 2011 at 10:29 AM
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    I guess I don't like companies that lie and grossly embellish their products. Sure, every company wants to make their product look good - but to outright, boldface lie about it? C'mon.

    I guess I shouldn't let it bother me. Just drives me crazy... In this day and age when word of mouth advertising can make or break you... I don't want a company like AMSOIL succeeding. If they at least tried to be realistic in their claims, or didn't follow Amway in their company structure...(did I mention MLM's are a scam IMHO?) then I don't think I'd have a problem with their products.
     
  7. Nov 1, 2011 at 6:29 PM
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    And I'll say this one more time...The business model for the company is not the question. If you personally don't like the way they do business- Don't do business with them. But do not try to get this thread locked...It won't end well for you.
     
  8. Nov 1, 2011 at 6:33 PM
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    I see you deleted the lionshare of my posts.

    Thanks... I wasn't *trying* to get a thread locked. I was openly expressing my opinion, sorry for doing so. I'll try not to voice my opinion in a public forum ever again :rolleyes:
     
  9. Nov 1, 2011 at 6:58 PM
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    If you against outlandish claims-you shouldn't make them. I deleted a couple of posts that had nothing to do with anything-Peanut oil isn't helpful or even close to on topic.

    You even acknowledged you were beating a dead horse- but you persisted. Next time- Say whatever you want...And then let it go. Continuously ranting about your personal opinions does not add anything to the conversation.
     
  11. Nov 1, 2011 at 7:23 PM
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    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Thor

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    Thomas Edison has been gone a while, but we still have lights, and electricity :)
    The guys test were cunducted by a 3rd party. People can read the results, and compare them, and draw an accurate cunclusion as to what they want to run in their vehicle.
    Videos dont mean much to me. I have torn into engines with 100, 200, 300k miles, and more, and have seen no noticable wear on the parts. All engines had regular oil change intervals.
    The only issue I have with Amsoil, is them claiming to be a "true" synthetic, when only their upper end oils are a group 4 or 5. The rest are group 3's, just like the "Big Oil" company oils. Most other oil manufactures have been constantly R&D'ing their products, to keep up with the constantly changing tech. in the auto industry. Ever tighter tolerances, adjustible valve timming (Wich is mostly done with oil pressure), etc. If their oils were bad, or poorly performing, things would have come to light, such as poor engine performance, increased engine wear, etc. This simply doesnt happen. Now, I have used Amsoil in the past. In many applications from Racing, motorcycles, cars, and trucks. The samples returned have not been that impressive, as to sway me from using a more readilly availible, less expensive motor oils. The samples I have seen myself from Amsoil run in my vehicles showed no better than off the shelf brands. So......If the samples are showing no real benafit, but the price is 2 times, or so the cost of an off the shelf brand...where is the value?
     
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    Ditto ... I think I have close to 1,000,000 KMs under my belt and have never ever had a single mechanical failure that I can attribute to the oil I was using. I have had several vehicles over 300K that I sold because the other mechanical failures were stacking up too fast to make them worth keeping. And that was with regular off-the shelf oils and cheap filters and irregular service intervals.

    On another note, I keep on being amazed at the things I learn on TW.

    • Pineapples aren't Hawaiian (I still can't believe that one)
    • ATRAC is clearly the superior traction control technology for off-roading (until I come out with next-gen HACK-ATRAC)
    • THERE ARE VIDEOS ON THE INTERNET THAT AREN"T PORN! HOLY CRAP! (I need to start using different search terms)
    • You need to be a scientist to use synthetic oil properly and real world results by real people don't match what is obtainable in the lab for marketing literature
     
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    Eff A-TRAC. You need:
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Nov 2, 2011 at 7:42 AM
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    I wish I could thank your posts. Thank you!!

    and John Adams - wow. Now you're saying we can go 400,000 miles without a single oil change? What'll AMSOIL make up next? Perhaps they'll start selling this turn signal fluid I've heard so much about.

    What about "isn't helpful or even close to on topic?" lol. :rolleyes:

    Edit - Probably should just close this thread. No one is going to "win", and everyone should just use what they like/prefer/have always used/whatever. Don't listen to outlandish claims tho, go with a known brand that you trust. I've always used Mobil1, never had a problem. This has gone so very OT from the OP, and that is partially my fault. Whoops.
     
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    you can

    hit the [​IMG] button to the bottom left of the post

    be sure to do this for chris. he needs more people to do this :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  16. Nov 2, 2011 at 7:47 AM
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    Eh, I guess that's close enough. Thanks, I guess I should "add rep" to you now :p.
     
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    Use any of the top tier synthetics, change within 10K and all will be good.
    I personally use Amsoil.
     
  18. Nov 2, 2011 at 1:07 PM
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    I see out too. You said you only added oil once. Maybe you said it wrong or maybe you mean it. I really hope you don't mean it.

    live via :sandwich:
     
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    :confused: 400K on one change? Seriously?

    Can you elaborate on the "proper filtration" part of this story? In general, oil doesn't wear out, it just gets dirty and that's what causes wear and the oil to degrade.

    I can see how the molecules on a synthetic oil might not break down over a very long period of time if there was an extremely sophisticated filtering mechanism where impurities were constantly and immediately removed out of the system, preserving the integrity of the oil and the engine.

    But if that's the case, any synthetic motor oil would produce similar results under the same conditions. Hardly a real world expectation ...
     
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