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Thoughts - 2004 4x4 at dealer

Discussion in '1st Gen Tacoma Parts Marketplace (1995-2004)' started by tacomaprerunner, Aug 11, 2011.

  1. Aug 11, 2011 at 4:05 PM
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    tacomaprerunner

    tacomaprerunner [OP] Dang liberals.

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    Test drove a 2004 Tacoma at the dealer today. At the time that I drove it, it had not yet been inspected by the dealer mechanics.

    Specs:
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    4x4
    Extended Cab
    174000 Miles - yes, 174000
    TRD Off Road Package, locker does not function
    Dealer is asking $10,000.

    However, it just failed inspection. Will cost $1000 in parts + labor to pass.

    I'm thinking the previous owner was a volunteer firefighter, because of the miles and there was wiring from the battery running to a dome light (removed), possibly to a CB (removed), and a cell phone charger. The owner must have been a smoker, because it does smell like cigarettes. That's not a huge issue to me.

    It drove straight, 4x4 worked, engine was strong, belts make some noise, power steering seemed just slightly rough, locker will not engage and tailgate is broke. The truck is not as beat up as it may seem.

    Is this worth pursuing? We have until tomorrow morning to commit before the dealer puts it up for auction as is.

    I know I will not pay the $10,000 the dealer is asking.

    Thoughts?

    Edit:
    Automatic Transmission
    Located in Central MO
    Edmunds pricing from $7000-8000 - rough to average condition
    KBB in Excellent Condition is $12,500
    Basic inspection of the frame showed no rust issues
     
  2. Aug 11, 2011 at 4:09 PM
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    horwitzs

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    Make an offer. Worst he can say is no and you haven't lost a thing.
     
  3. Aug 11, 2011 at 4:20 PM
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    tacomaprerunner

    tacomaprerunner [OP] Dang liberals.

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    Thoughts on an offer?
     
  4. Aug 11, 2011 at 4:22 PM
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    G scott04

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    I got my 04 for 8500 with 89k miles FWIW
    that was also private seller. and it didn't have any problems...

    just to give you an idea...
    what does kbb say?
     
  5. Aug 11, 2011 at 4:30 PM
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    tacomaprerunner

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    Edmunds says around $7000-$8000
    KBB gave a price for 'Excellent condition', which was $12,500. It's in rough to average condition.
     
  6. Aug 11, 2011 at 4:35 PM
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    OffroadToy

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    I'd pass on it...too many miles.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2011 at 4:36 PM
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    tacomaman06

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    getting there....
    i'd make an offer of around $8200 with them fixing the locker and see what they say.
     
  8. Aug 11, 2011 at 4:38 PM
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    paintdiddy

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    X2 a lot of unknown miles
     
  9. Aug 11, 2011 at 4:48 PM
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    Did you check underneth for rust?
     
  10. Aug 11, 2011 at 4:59 PM
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    I understand what you're saying, but these trucks are hard to come by. Could be another long wait.

    Briefly. No obvious signs of rust, but yes, I would need to further inspect it.
     
  11. Aug 11, 2011 at 5:02 PM
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    x3. The wait is worth it to get something better imo
     
  12. Aug 11, 2011 at 5:15 PM
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    I fully understand your opinion. However I've looked for the past year at local dealers, craigslist and classified ads in the paper. This is the first one to come on the market.

    Here's the bottom line:
    I want to get it, but I feel that doing so would be impulsive. Chances are it's fine (aside from the issues previously mentioned). If I'm making a mistake, I need to be talked out of it.
     
  13. Aug 11, 2011 at 5:19 PM
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    I've got an email out to the dealer asking what specifically is holding the truck back from passing inspection. I've also asked him if I could take the truck to a private inspection facility tomorrow morning to get a second evaluation.
     
  14. Aug 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM
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    Oh yeah get a carfax on it.
    def worth it, stopped me from buying a truck with
    a rolled odometer, and a bent frame!
     
  15. Aug 11, 2011 at 6:40 PM
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    if the locker is fucked, then the truck was used and abused. what elese is messed up? trans next? transfer case? wait for one with no issues and less miles for that price. im looking into some with similar miles and $2k less than this one.
     
  16. Aug 11, 2011 at 6:46 PM
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    Not necessarily abused. My locker bit the dust a few months ago, and I hadn't 'abused' it. They can go bad.

    Yes. Tried for over 5 minutes. Did not hear the actuator cycling - electronic hookup could be disconnected. I'll check that out.
     
  17. Aug 11, 2011 at 6:50 PM
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    Just drove out to the dealer.
    Here's some pictures.

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  18. Aug 11, 2011 at 6:53 PM
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    BUCKLE UP! It makes it harder for Aliens to pull you out of your Truck.
    PASS. At that mileage you're going to be rebuilding the whole truck.....eventually and it will cost as much as just buying a trouble free new (or alot newer) one.

    If you could get that truck for NO MORE than $5,500 go for it because you WILL spend thousands to fix it over time and then you're stuck with an old high mileage truck that NO ONE will want.

    Isn't the interest rate alot higher for a used vehicle than new?

    Buy a used truck from an original owner; at least you can size up the owner and maybe he has receipts for work done.

    Ya. $10,000 is ALOt of money for that.
     
  19. Aug 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM
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    Way too many miles for that price along with repairs that will be needed in the future....keep looking and I'm sure something will turn up eventually.
     
  20. Aug 11, 2011 at 7:11 PM
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    Back to square one after the 2001. So...
    I'd have concerns with the mileage. That's a lot of wear on bushings and bearings etc. How is the suspension? If original, you can easily dump a grand right there. Has the T-belt (plus h2o pump) ever been done? Due every 90k, about $500 in labor). Power steering rough? Pump? Rack? How's the exhaust? Close to rusted through? Tires? Cha ching cha ching cha ching.
     
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