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Time to trade up... Ninja 250 to GSX-R 750 maybe?

Discussion in 'Motorcycles' started by StaticFilter, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. StaticFilter

    StaticFilter [OP] Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]Having never ridden a motorcycle before, a lead foot, and a wife who loves me, I started riding last year on a brand new 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250 (I could have gotten a brand new 08 Ninja 500 for cheaper but it was ugly...) With 2600 miles on the odometer now, I'm ready for more power. Utah has some odd motorcycle license laws:

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    • If you test on a motorcycle/scooter 90 cc or less, you will be restricted to riding motorcycles/scooters 90 cc or less.
    • If you test on a motorcycle/scooter 249 cc or less, you will be restricted to riding motorcycles/scooters 249 cc or less.
    • If you test on a motorcycle/scooter 649 cc or less, you will be restricted to riding motorcycles/scooters 649 cc or less.
    • If you test on a motorcycle/scooter larger than 650 cc, you will not be restricted, you will be authorized to ride any size motorcycle/scooter.
    I have yet to take the DMV course to get my motorcycle license because I didn't want to do it over again later if i got a bigger bike. So now I think I'll go to a Suzuki GSX-R 750... I think the 750 will be a good choice because it's not the biggest bike, but at the same time has plenty of power and i can take the DMV course and be 100% legal on any bike i might ride.... A likely scenario is me trading my 250 into a dealer and getting into a 2009-2012 750, I'd rather get an 09 if I can since it'd be cheaper. Anyone have anything good or bad to say about the 09-12 GSX-R 750s? There's a few older 750's on the local classifieds but since i still owe on my current bike, i'd be better off trading it in
     
  2. Twistedfreedom

    Twistedfreedom welcome to the incredibuild

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    the 750 is one of the best bikes ever made. it will hang with a 1000 in the straights and blow by them in the corners. That being said its a HUGE jump from a 250 to a 750. like going from a geo to a z06.
     
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    StaticFilter [OP] Well-Known Member

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    My buddy is 6' 4" and races his 250 sometimes at the track, he at least kills the 600s on the corners... Then he takes out the GSX-R 1000...

    I know it's a huge jump, but most people start out on bigger bikes, part of me wishes I had, but then again I'm glad I got some "training" first so I'll have some experience on 2 wheels

    any benefits to a 2011/12 over a 2009/10?
     
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    cmack Impeach Chris4x4!

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    I'm looking to pick up a SV650S soon....

    Other than that, :popcorn:
     
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    StaticFilter [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I was originally looking at the SV650s a long while back, they are supposed to be great bikes, though since they are discontinued, how great could they be? :)
     
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    cmack Impeach Chris4x4!

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    I've been told they are bullet proof and pretty damn good bikes. We'll see I guess? Looking to pick one up in May or June, so we'll see....
     
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    Suzuki built the bikes tough. If you do alot of heavy mods to the engine there clutch sucks besides that really no issue. Mine has been in 2 recalls suzuki was just like toyota impressed i was.
     
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    They are bullet proof and have plenty of power for road riding. Plus that V twin sounds awesome with an exhaust.
     
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    cmack Impeach Chris4x4!

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    :woot:

    Always good to hear that :D
     
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    Twistedfreedom welcome to the incredibuild

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    Suzuki is the only one making a 750 last i checked and there is a reason it's one hell of a bike.

    From what I can tell, the only differences is that there are only two fuel map modes in the 2011 and three on the 2010 and the 2011 power band has been widened a little compared to the 09/10. Meaning you have a broader TQ curve and more low end power below 5000rpm.
     
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    Warhorseforever Will The Thrill

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    SV's are pretty much bulletproof. The only real problems that they have are noisy engines, much like Toyota's, and the automatic cam chain adjuster adjust in big jumps rather than small smooth increments so you'll have a bad tick then it'll go away. It's a V twin engine so you don't want to ride wheelies or you'll risk frying the front cylinder so if you're looking at getting one of those then ask the owner how easy it'll do a wheelie, if he say's something like no problem then get cautious about it quick. I know all of this because I'm a frequent flyer on an SV forum that I joined when looking at buying one. As for your original question going from a Ninja 250 to a GSXR 750 is a very big jump as they are 2 completely different beast's. I'd tell you to go to a Ninja 600 or 650r. The 600r being an inline 4 much more powerful and dangerous to a hog handed rider vs the parallel twin 650r. The GSXR 750 is a great bike just not something you want to dive head first into coming from a 250. Personally I'd look at the Ninja 650R, CBR600RR, or the Yamaha R6 Yamaha being first choice.
     
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    I realize it's a big jump, but, any experience is better than no experience, as said, some people start riding on a 1000cc bike... I know I'm going to be basically starting over learning to ride the 750 since it's heavier, less agile, more power, etc etc, etc... I rode the 250 for the first 500 miles under 6500 RPMs (under 45 MPH on the 250), I'll probably do something similar with the 750. Slow, non-busy streets, church parking lots, etc... I called the local Suzuki dealer today and will be heading over there tomorrow to see what they will give me on trade-in.
     
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    Yeah you'll be fine, just take it easy. It's not like a 2 stroke dirt bike where you're fine one second then on your back the next. It's a 4 stroke inline 4, the power is very linear and predictable.
     
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    if you already realize how dangerous two wheels can be whether it be 250 cc or 1400cc, and respect the power your sitting on you'll be ok on the 750.

    That being said come over to the dark side, Italian twins (Ducati 848 in black of course) British Triples (Triumph Daytona 675 R in White). Oh the joy of it all.
    Ride safe on what ever you choose.
     
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    So the 750 has different modes like the 1000? The 1000 has itself, 750, and 600 correct? What does the 750 have?

    I am purchasing in 3-4 months and am considering the 750, gsxr1000, or cbr1000. Possibly an 848.
     
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    the 750 is the best all around bike. As far as the "modes" go, they are just different fuel maps and timing changes to make the bike more or less responsive.
     
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    jdkeller How many words can be fit in this s

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    Just did a bunch of reading of all the 1000's from a 2010 comparison. Apparently the gsxr was the most comfortable and best for long rides and commutes which is a plus. I would think the 750 would be similar.
     
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    750's are apparently hot buys, local dealer could only find one in the state and it had a deposit on it already, went through the BS of trying to sell me on the 600, and it WAS tempting since they had one there but I walked out. They sat there and told me they could tune the 600 to perform just like the 750, but if thats true, they could tune the 750 to perform even better haha... Waiting patiently for a 750, might be waiting for a 2013 or find a used bike for now but even the nearest used bike is 7 hours away in montana. I figure if the dealer only had a 750 in stock and i came in for a 600, they'd try telling me all the same crap in reverse. They tried telling me that there isn't a 750 class anymore so i wouldn't be able to race. I'm almost 30, just barely started riding, and I'm 6' 3", it's not like im going pro, but i can still have fun on Open track days.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_GSX-R750

    http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/suzuki/2010-suzuki-gsx-r-750-ar65669.html

    http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/suzuki/2011-suzuki-gsxr600-and-gsxr750-revealed-90013.html
     
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    I would love to get my hands on a 750. I was in the market for one a few years ago but ran into the same problem your having.... i couldnt find any. I came off of a 2000 gsxr 600 (last year they were carbed) and wanted a slight increase in power. i settled on a gsxr 1000, which im not saying is a terrible choice, but it is a whole lot of bike (im 5' 8" and weigh 160). The 750 would have been perfect.
    I think the dealer is telling the truth to an extent about the 750 class, there is no pro 750 class and that is the exact reason that the other 3 big manufacturers dont have a bike that size.
    My girlfriend has an 04 600 gsxr with exhaust, map, and 520 -1 / +2. its great on the twisties but leaves a bit to be desired on the highway. the 600 is a fun bike but if you can get your hands on the 750, do it.
    And as far as not being ready for that much power, its all about your level of responsibility. Like WVtriple said, you can get yourself in a hairy situation just as easy on a 250 as you can on a 1400.
    Man, i would like a 750. good luck
     
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