Tire Grabbing after 3" lift.

The tires are not chirping. It feels like they are folding over slightly and riding on the sidewall for a split second. It almost feels like your on ice with no control briefly then regain control right back.

 

Anyone else have any imput?

 

Yeah, the 4wheelparts near me tried to say that Toytec/Eibach coils weren't for 5100's & wouldn't fit (which told me just how much shit they're full of) I played dumb, & then he tries to sell me on spacers or a body lift to get the 3" I wanted. (actually didn't need anything, was just baiting them to see what kind of info I'd get)

After his sales pitch I called him on his bullshit, & told him the facts: Not only will the Eibachs fit the 5100's but the Eibach coil was designed specifically FOR Bilstein 5100's, there were 4 or 5 guys there waiting for a rebuttal but he froze like a deer in headlights.... It just underscored what I've heard & read about them...

 

Sounds like alignment, but tire pressure could also be a factor.

 

If it were Traction or Stability control you know, the dash lights up like a pinball machine, you can hear the pump screaming and valves banging, plus the beeping alarm tone.

I suspect they didn't tighten something correctly, and something is moving when you load/unload through the turn.

I'd check the LCA alignment cam bolts (19, 22 and 24 mm, as I recall) and the shock (top 12mm and bottom 19mm). I don't know why they would have touched it, but check the steering tie rod ends too.

Also ask for an alignment print out. Your caster is going to be low without UCAs, but it should be the same on both sides.

Good luck.

 

Bump steer ?

 

UCAs may be the issue. Check out this thread. Basically he said it felt really floaty before putting the light racing UCAs on. Also couldn't get the alignment into spec. You should always ask for the alignment spec sheet when you get it done so you can check to see where they got you. It does sound like alignment to me. But is it rolling hard on turns, like it's really off camber? Did you remove the sway bar? Wouldn't be surprise if 4 wheel parts forgot to reinstall it after the lift.

 

Sorry, forgot the link. https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...driving-report-with-light-racing-ucas.158795/

 

ask them to get the alignment specs printed for you and check it with what the specs should be.
i didnt see anywhere if you had gotten UCA with the lift but from what i read after installing 3" of lift you may need aftermarket UCA to get the alignment in spec

 

Thanks for the feed back everyone! I tried to get toyota near me (pacifica ca) to look at the alignment and they wont touch it because of the aftermarket suspension lift..... (Unbelievable) I called around and found a toyota dealership in tha sacramento area that will do it.

I want to hold 4wheelparts accountable to get it right however I dont feel I can trust them. I think my next step is to have toyota check 4wheelparts work, re-align it and calibrate VSC sensor. See if they can get it within spec. If not, I guess I'm buying some UCA's and having a reputable shop install. Cross my fingers and hope that fixes it.

 

Good luck, op. You're on the right track.

 

I do have mild bump steer. And I've thought from the beginning that the camber was off. Yet 4wheelparts is telling me everything should be good. I made a mistake and didnt get a printout. The guy i have been working with is off until monday. I will call and see if they keep the alignment report and if i can get a copy.

I'm concerned that the alignment is within spec and I still have this problem.... Then what???

 

First thing to do is get a torque wrench and check everything they did. Next, have the alignment done by a 3rd party; this will confirm for you that you need UCAs. Order and install said UCAs and pay for another alignment. I see you are in Pacifica, ever get to the South Bay? I can recommend an alignment shop in Milpitas that will work to your numbers. Your target numbers are 3 degrees of caster, 0 degrees of camber, and 0 inches of toe.

 

Oh, and have a look at this thread
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...have-a-problem-with-slip.360659/#post-9773873

 

I agree. It's hard to "hear and feel" the noise you're experiencing via the Internet, but it sounds like positive camber. They were probably trying to get the caster as high as possible, sacrificing camber. A good picture of your truck would help. If it's that far off it should be visually obvious.

 

Agreed. Also, that thread I posted about LR UCA's will really teach you a lot about your alignment after lift (especially if you're trying to play the camber off the caster). Sadly, this is likely another thread in the ever growing contribution as to why a lot of guys on here stay away from 4wheelparts.

 

Thanks EDDO... I would be willing to travel to Milpitas to get it right.

 

Did you talk to 4WP today?

 

I called 4wheelparts today and asked about my alignment numbers. They didnt have the report but assured me it was within spec.... (Of course right)... I told'm I was fed up and wanted it put back to stock. He put me on hold for ten minutes then came back and asked if i could come down and test drive with shop foremen and show him how Im driving... Basiclly accusing me of hot rodding around the corners. I assured him I wasnt then gave'm a piece of my mind.... In the end i agreed to the test drive and scheduled it for this Wednesday. I do know of a turn by my house that will trigger it so i plan to takem there.

In response to JustinIhc regarding a picture I'll get one tomorrow (its dark). However, the camber is not obviously out a wack one way or another...

This sucks...

 

OP you are right to give 4WP a shot at putting it right for you. Please let us know what happens on Wednesday.