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Tire plug fail

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by hmsailor, Apr 4, 2018.

  1. Apr 5, 2018 at 7:52 AM
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    Gearheadesw

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  3. Apr 5, 2018 at 9:44 AM
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    On a broader note, there is always risk in every action we take, whether it is plugging a tire, crossing a street, or spending the day in bed. For me, experience has been the teacher with regard to plugs. I put the risk associated with plugs right up there with eating too fast, or stepping in dog doo.
    I think TPMS is great, but not a substitute for normal diligence. I drove for 30 years without ABS TPMS ATRAX ASC or ADHD. Most of that without a cell phone either. I still walk around my truck while it is filling and look/smell/listen/feel for anything unusual. On long trips I still thump the tires with a billy. I still pay attention when I drive for anything unusual. It's ingrained because not doing so often left you walking. People are so distracted today, and everything has an alarm to warn you. Lights on, door open, seat belt, radio,..... We should be better off, but we really aren't.
     
  4. Apr 5, 2018 at 9:51 AM
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    Ive plugged numerous tires and numerous holes...all lasted as long as the tread lasted...ie the life of the tire. And none leaked.
     
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  5. Apr 5, 2018 at 11:39 AM
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  8. Apr 5, 2018 at 9:53 PM
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  9. Apr 6, 2018 at 4:01 AM
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    So all the experts on here know more than the tire technicians. They don't say that you need a new tire, they say the proper way to repair it is to remove it from the wheel and repair it from the inside. Just because you fixed them with plugs and had no leak doesn't make it the proper way. You use all the plugs you want and Ill fix mine the proper way,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     
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  10. Apr 6, 2018 at 6:29 AM
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    why was using plugs for 25years previous the improper way? because tire manufactorers and Tire store chains and sellers were losing too much money not selling new tires or repairing the tire by removing and patching from the inside and charging $100 as compared to a self sufficient consumer doing it himself for the price of a $5 repair kit and 5 minutes time. the tire manufactorers and their paid off government cronies came up with a way to squeeze out more revenue from the working consumer with the false idea that your not qualified enough to repair your own tires and the WHAT IF legal shake down with lawyers backing up the false pretense of imminent disaster buy using a tire plug on a punctured tire.
     
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  11. Apr 6, 2018 at 7:02 AM
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    If anyone can point to one single incident of a plug causing a tire failure I would like to see it. I have never heard of one. It would only take one to get every kit on the market pulled off the shelves. A plug is no more likely to cause a failure than the nail that made the hole. Under inflation causes failures, not little leak holes like this. You could buy a brand new tire and pick up a nail pulling out of the parking lot, then what?? The reason TPMS is mandated now on vehicles is because people never check their tires and drive distracted. Then they try to blame tire makers and everyone else for their stupidity. I was on the highway the other day and started smelling burning rubber. A few miles later I passed a guy with a smoking flat tire with his emergency blinkers on. Most of these industry recommendations are to protect us from people like that. TPMS is actually one of very few "safety" devices that I think is a good idea. There is really no downside except for a little extra cost, and the TPMS will usually pick up the leak before you actually feel it in the car.
     
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  12. Apr 6, 2018 at 8:54 AM
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    Just a guess but if a patch nearer the edge of the tread is prone to leaking then shops would be understandably reluctant to expose themselves to lawsuits or simply having to attempt multiple repairs on the same tire while only being paid once. A compromise might be relegating the tire to spare status if it's a slow leak and you have oba. Maybe after a few more attempts at plugging you get better at it (most things are like this if you try to understand why it didn't work before) and don't just keep doing it the same way hoping for a better result. Somebody borrowing the truck and ignoring or forgetting the instructions about a slow leak could lead to an accident. There are plenty of pros/cons.
     
  13. Apr 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM
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    replugged the tire last night with a thicker plug and over did the cement. let it sit overnight and filled it up this morning. did the water-detergent test and looks like there is no more leak.

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  14. Apr 8, 2018 at 10:16 PM
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    That's good news. I think it would be helpful to post occasional updates on how it holds up since tire shops won't repair a puncture this close to the sidewall. The reccomended process is to patch the inside as well but for emergencies that's not always an option.
     
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  15. Apr 10, 2018 at 6:45 AM
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    still holding up. 51psi.

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    good work OP, just keep an eye on the PSI for a few days and youll be good to go, no reason to buy a new tire or pay a $100++ repair for something like this,
     
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    I've rolled tens of thousands of miles on tires I've plugged using cement and never had a failure.
     
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  19. Apr 11, 2018 at 9:17 PM
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    Who the fuck is paying 100 bucks for a flat repair? I have never seen a 100 dollar flat repair in my life. We patch tires for free as most shops do.
     
  20. Apr 12, 2018 at 6:39 AM
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    they usually repair for free tires that are bought at the Tire place with a fix/repair warranty on them, I think the OPs has no fix/repair warranty on his? I was quoted $75 to repair a punchured tire(factory Dunflops) I had from the inside, I said no way bought a $5 kit at harbor freight and plugged it myself never had an issue with it at all, still have a lot of plugs left, if I had warrantied tires I would just take them in for a patch if I had the time to wait.
     

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