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Tire Sizes and My 2.7 Liter Tacoma

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by JayFi, May 24, 2012.

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Which Tires would you pick for my 2.7L 4X4 Tacoma

Poll closed Jun 23, 2012.
  1. 245/75/16 Goodyear Duratrac

    25.9%
  2. 265/70/16 General Grabber AT2

    22.2%
  3. 265/75/16 Goodyear Duratrac

    51.9%
  1. May 24, 2012 at 9:12 AM
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    JayFi

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    First off, I just want to say that this is a great forum. I've been lurking on here for a few months since I bought my Tacoma, so I know that this is a tired subject -- it seems like I've been reading about tires every night after work! :)

    I've got a 2009 Access Cab 4X4 with a 5-Speed. I want a more aggressive tire, but I don't want to deal with too much power loss (not too concerned with MPG). If 265/75/16s are going to make 5th gear unusable, I'm not interested in jumping up to that size.

    That said, I've narrowed my choices down to the following three tires:

    245/75/16 Goodyear Duratrac (stock size)
    265/70/16 General Grabber AT2
    265/75/16 Goodyear Duratrac

    If you've got Duratracs in the stock size, I'd love to see some pics as well.
     
  2. May 24, 2012 at 9:38 AM
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    KenLyns

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    I think 5th gear will always be usable. The rotational inertia of a larger, heavier tire hurts acceleration, but won't be a problem once it gets rolling.

    If you are dead set on these two tire models, I'd take Goodyear Duratrac 265/75/16 in load range C, weighs only 45 lb. The load range E variant weights 54 lb, so I'd avoid that one.
     
  3. May 24, 2012 at 10:53 AM
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    Depends on what you're looking for.
    Mud/dirt/sand/rock, you're better off with wider tires. Ice/snow (except for bottomless arctic stuff), you're better off with narrower.

    Be aware that your manual is geared lower than an otherwise identical automatic, it won't have any trouble turning the larger diameter.

    I doubt that you would even be able to feel the extra rotational inertia of the E's, not that I recommend them -- this size of truck doesn't require the added payload capacity.
     
  4. May 24, 2012 at 1:13 PM
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    Thanks for the replies! Our winters aren't usually too bad here (DC suburbs), so I'm not too concerned about sticking with a narrower tire for ice/snow.
     
  5. May 24, 2012 at 3:28 PM
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    Keep in mind stock Dunlops are 32 lb. Going from 32 to 54 lb will be noticeable.

    Even load range C tires exceed the truck's payload capacity by a lot. The theory behind the load range E tires is that the extra sidewall plys make the tire more puncture-resistant on the trail. The theory doesn't always prove out in practice - puncture resistance has more to do with tire design than ply count, and no one has compared this tire characteristic scientifically, so luck plays a big part too.

    Personally I run P-metric tires. Hankook Dynapro ATM in P265/75-16 weighs only 40 lb. It's a very good AT tire that also behaves well on pavement.
     
  6. May 24, 2012 at 5:42 PM
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    Thanks Ken -- I have had the Hankooks in the back of my mind. Everything I've read says that they're lightweight and quiet on the highway.
     
  7. May 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM
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    I spent a lot of time researching weights. My aftermarket rims weigh 3 lbs less and my cooper AT3s 265/75/16 weight 8 lbs more than stock so a net plus of 5lbs. I'm very happy with that outcome. Not enough miles yet to give mpg results.
     
  8. May 24, 2012 at 7:02 PM
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    P255/75r17 Dynapro ATMs ~37lbs

    ^skinnier yet still a 32" :D
     
  9. May 24, 2012 at 7:05 PM
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    Don't forget to multiply by four

    What do the stock steelies and tires weigh combined, if you remember?
    I'm assuming the 31lb wheels and Idk what tires you had
     
  10. May 24, 2012 at 7:08 PM
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    I have a 2012 2.7 ac auto. I did so much research and I settled between 2 tires. 265/75 toyo open country's or cooper at3. Both were similar in weight but the toys were lighter. So I chose pro comp 7032s and 265/75r16. P-rated of course. The total weight difference measured is about 6 pounds.

    1. I did see a noticeable difference in both power and mileage. But wait....

    2. I measured the height difference, ignore what they sAy, the toyos were 1.5 inches taller. That was a noticeable gear change. What were the results?....

    3. Around town and uphills the truck was a little more sluggish. Certainly on hills. But when I'm cruising and moderate speed around town or highway the truck is merely idling. So I got almost the same mileage , about 1-2 mpg less, with a little power loss on hills.

    I am very happy with the look and the performance. I have a scan gauge and after much research I got it dialed in perfectly. As of now I get an overall average of 20mpg + With a range of 16-19 around town and upwards of 25 on the highway. Power difference is noticeable but hasn't bothered me yet. I bought a 4 banger for gas not power.

    I can post pics if you like. If I had a loss at 5 more pounds of tire, an LT or heavy tire (anything over 40 pounds) would be a serious issue for me.

    I love my setup.
     
  11. May 24, 2012 at 7:13 PM
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    So total weight of wheel+tire?^
     
  12. May 24, 2012 at 7:15 PM
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    I'm running the Hankooks too. Love them. Good traction and light weight. Also look pretty aggressive.
     
  13. May 24, 2012 at 7:28 PM
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    Sorry don't actually know the rim weight. I have a tire guy a trust very much and I asked him to weigh the difference after he mounted the newbies and took the Tpms off. He said about 6 pounds. The rubber alone was a dif of six so hat means the steelies were the same weight as new aluminums. No savings there. I can probably find out.

    I wanna say new was 61 pounds, stock was 55. Hope that helps. Rims are around 23 a piece.

    Hope that helps
     
  14. May 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM
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    Amazon ship weight for 7032 is 22 pounds. Sounds right because tire weight is 38 pounds on toyo
     
  15. May 24, 2012 at 7:32 PM
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  16. May 24, 2012 at 7:40 PM
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    My Vote was 245/75 trac because the weight of that tire alone is 40 pounds , HOWEVER, because you don't change tire height you still have the same gear ratio. Just my 2 cents. Go light if you go 265/75. Tracs are like 45 pounds I think at that size. In my experience that would not be a good idea
     
  17. May 24, 2012 at 7:49 PM
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    265 looked great on mine. Just saying
     
  18. May 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM
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    I have a stock set. I put one on my bathroom scale. 55 pounds mounted up. Subtract 32 that's 23 pounds for the rim. For stock steelies.
     
  19. May 24, 2012 at 8:41 PM
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    I have the Hankook Dynapro ATM's 265/75/16 P-metric.have only had 1 week on my 09 access cab v6 auto sr5 so the milage check is still out but I will be filling up on Sat. but at this time I see no loss of mpg as of yet.
     
  20. May 24, 2012 at 9:20 PM
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    Anyone know of a lighter wheel than konigs? It would benefit 4 banger guys a lot to know. IIRC 16" ~ 18lbs and 17" ~ 20lbs.

    The dynapro ATM is a good lightweight tire with M+S rating, I know wrangler silent armors and Michelin LTX M/S 2, bridgestone Dueller Revo 2 are some other less aggressive ATs with m+s too
     
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