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tm 6" suspension question....

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by darkturtleninja, Feb 9, 2009.

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  1. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM
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    ok so im about to order the gabriel strut cartridges to replace the trailmasters..... i just want to make sure im replacing the correct thing...
    as we have all heard... the tm strutts are junk and can blow out within an hour of installation...
    i have read on other forums that there suspension has a loud "clunk" when extended or what ever...

    the problem with my suspension is that it has a very loud deep creaking sound...
    and if i put weight on the front, my suspension will go down and stick... same as when i pull up on the suspension it will raise and stick....

    sometimes i will be sitting at a stoplight with the clutch in and foot off of the brake pedal just sitting waiting for the light to change and all of the sudden the front of my truck will pop up a couple inches....
    the truck has a unforgiving ride to it... very rough and stiff...

    does this sound like a secondary strut problem to you or does it sound like a coilover shock problem??? i guess either way i am going to do the gabriel conversion as well as the bilstien5100's on the rear.... i just wonder if front shocks need replaced????
    any information or experiences you may have would be appreciated...

    thanks
    -david
     
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  2. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:02 AM
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    Sounds like the springs are worn.
     
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  3. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:04 AM
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    do you mean the coils themselves? could this just be caused by the struts or shocks being almost seised???
     
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  4. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:05 AM
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    It's the wife's T4R so it's stock
    ^^
    what he said... but sounds like everything is worn...
     
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  5. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:05 AM
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    Yep. What do you have on there now?
     
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  6. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:19 AM
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    you know i have no idea.... i havent messed with any of it yet.... im sure i have pics....

    [​IMG]

    the shocks are just black with no writing on them as far as i can tell but yeah they look like junk...
     
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  7. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:23 AM
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    i just took this picture with my phone so it kinda sux plus the truck is muddy... but it does look like the shocks are f'ed up....
    i looks like the bottom part is scrapeing against the top half.... great!
     
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  8. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:25 AM
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    Those look like the Original OEM shocks and springs. Replace them, and you should enjoy a WORLD of difference.:)
     
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  9. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:28 AM
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    any suggestions chris? be easy on my wallet...lol... damn im replaceing everything front and back..... good thing i already got the leaves in the back replaced 2 months ago....
     
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  10. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:30 AM
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    being as your springs AND shocks are shot....Im thinking OME 881's for the springs, and some Bilstien 5100's all around for the shocks. ;)
     
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  11. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:41 AM
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    so im kinda confused with the bilstiens... i talked to downsouth about the rears.... all i know is that he said i need the 5100 with 10" travel... and thats all that i know..... as far as the fronts i am clueless on what to get... i just know 5100.... sory for the silly questions... chris you are a big help
     
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  12. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:44 AM
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    Not silly questions at all. 10" for the rear sounds about right. For the front, you just need teh OEM replacements, as the TM lift has a big spacer for the front lift. When you get them, and the OME springs, keep the shocks on the lowest level, as the OME springs will give a bit of lift.
     
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  13. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:51 AM
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    so the shocks and springs are the original stock toyota sizes??? correct?
     
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  14. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:53 AM
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    Yepo! :)
     
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  15. Feb 9, 2009 at 7:59 AM
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    sweet.... so yeah after looking at the truck a bit more im not even sure that the tm struts are even blown out.thats sad... i thinks its those shocks!.... is this something i can do at home or does it need to go back into the shop??? i really hate paying for labor....lol
     
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  16. Feb 9, 2009 at 8:06 AM
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    You should be able to do it your self. When you get the new parts, just take them to a shop, and have them put the shocks/ springs together for ya. Then, just bolt them in. Should only cost about $20.00 or so per side.
     
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  17. Feb 9, 2009 at 8:09 AM
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    sweet thanks chris!.... keep an eye on this thread i may have more questions later.....but i think im done for now...lol..... thank you very much!:)
     
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  18. Feb 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM
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    Anytime, Buddy. ;)
     
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  19. Feb 19, 2009 at 11:22 PM
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    grrrrrrrrr. the irs is slow getting the tax returns out....
     
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  20. Feb 19, 2009 at 11:35 PM
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    i did this after having similar probs with my oem tm kit...replaced the front w/ rancho shox(shoulda done billies, but i got the ajustables and they feel great), OME 882's and gabriel inversion mod done up front...in the rear i had new mounts installed at 30 degrees and used the rancho adjustable 14" shocks...sooooo much better now
     
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