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Too mutch rear brakes

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by goualon69, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. Feb 25, 2013 at 6:33 PM
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    Hugh Morron

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    This guy must be the only person in the world who got a good ABS system. Just remember you're right and the rest of the world is wrong
     
  2. Feb 25, 2013 at 6:56 PM
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  3. Feb 25, 2013 at 7:07 PM
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    I’ll say its the vsc like others.


    wrong. ABS SUCKS BALLS in mud and snow when you have bad tires. even with my good tires it kicks in almost as soon as you touch the brakes in mud. and no I’m not pressing them to hard or fast. They will kick in at like 15 mph. I have been in trucks suvs without them and they stop faster and don’t try and get side ways.

    I want to do the by pass. but idk if i trust my wiring enough to do it.
     
  4. Feb 25, 2013 at 7:12 PM
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    2000GTacoma

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    do the 2nd gen have a bar on the rear proportioning valve between the body and the valve? Could a lift throw this off? I believe BAMF makes a piece to fix this if it is. I'm a 1st gen. Just a thought.
     
  5. Feb 25, 2013 at 7:14 PM
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    how do we all go about using it properly when it engages on its own? and you really can’t control when it engages?
     
  6. Feb 25, 2013 at 8:41 PM
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    Most peoples ABS Systems work fine.
     
  7. Feb 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM
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    ABS doesn't actuate "on its own". It isn't magic. The system senses a wheel locking up and then pulses the brakes very rapidly to that the wheels will continue turning and allow you to maintain the ability to steer. Speed has nothing to do with when the ABS System kicks in. It is all about locking up a wheel.

    The problems sound more like an issue with the VSC.
     
  8. Feb 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM
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    DWreck

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    I have had an issue with mine being too sensitive as well. "Zero point calibration" sounds like a good idear.
     
  9. Feb 25, 2013 at 9:22 PM
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    well for one you the drive can’t really control when a tire slips. It may do it if you want it to or not!

    also, when it does do it it messes you up. it does not let you steer. when you are in mud or snow. if on the road yes it will let you steer. but off it does not work like that, because for the 1 or less that it locks of you slid and go where you don’t want to go. If it was not so touchy or you could turn it off, than you can control the brakes better some times. like if off roading one wheel may slip or slide a little, but you may still have complete control of the truck, and it may not really be sliding at all. but than the abs kicks in and locks the others up so now you lose all control because all they tires lock up for a fer short time but very fast. if you have just a consistent pressure on the brakes you can keep them from locking up.
    yeah i have looked at it alot. i’m kinda confused about which one i need to do. thats why i have put it off so long. also even when i had rugged fails it messed up. it messed up more than than it does now with the nittos. also from the snow thread, i think some of the years MAYBE more sensitive than other years.

    NOW on road i LOVE ABS and it has saved me 2 times from getting in a wreck. It’s just off road and in snow, i don’t really like it. Thats why i want it on a switch so when it’s snowing, or i’m off roading i can turn it off, than when the snow is gone or i get back on the road i can turn it back on.
     
  10. Feb 25, 2013 at 9:38 PM
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    " but than the abs kicks in and locks the others up so now you lose all control because all they tires lock up for a fer short time but very fast"

    I think this has more to do with (VSC) Vehicle Stability Control than the actual ABS. ABS System does not lock up the brakes at all.
     
  11. Feb 25, 2013 at 10:15 PM
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    And there is your problem not understanding your brakes.
     
  13. Feb 25, 2013 at 10:21 PM
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    ya i think that is the one i need.
    grammer nazi
     
  14. Feb 25, 2013 at 10:23 PM
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    no i understand them fin. i want to know how you can control when a tire is slipping or not?
     
  15. Feb 26, 2013 at 4:14 PM
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    If it starts slipping, take your foot off the brake pedal. That is how you control it.

    I know if you are in some slick mud or ice there isn't really much you can do with or without ABS. That is just a fact of life.
     
  16. Feb 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM
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    ya that does not work all the time. I have done that and as soon as i press the brake agin(just enough so the lights come on) It starts slipping.


    none ABS works a lot better in mud and snow. Because even if a wheel slips nothing changes unlike with ABS.
     
  17. Feb 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM
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    If it is that slick, nothing is going to prevent it from locking up. Nothing. I understand why you would like to disable the ABS in an off road condition.

    The things you describe are just false. examples:
    They do not engage on their own.
    They do not lock up the wheels, the ABS prevents the wheels from locking up.
    If the wheels lock up from just touching the pedal " enough to turn on the brake lights " - it is too slick anyway and Nothing is going to prevent you from sliding. If all four wheels are locked up ( not turning ) as far as ABS is concerned you are stopped and it will not activate, ever.
     
  18. Feb 26, 2013 at 10:27 PM
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    two mutch mispeeling giong no
     
  19. Feb 26, 2013 at 10:30 PM
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    :rofl:

    anybody else imagining what their face looks like trying to pronounce "mutch"?
     
  20. Feb 26, 2013 at 10:32 PM
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    i just said it maybe 20 times in a row an keep seeing the title pass in the main page. it was getting under my skin haha. mutt-cha
     

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