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Top Plate Spacer Causing Ball Joint to Contact Spring

Discussion in 'ToyTec Lifts' started by DDD, Aug 3, 2011.

  1. Aug 3, 2011 at 10:24 AM
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    I recently purchased the Toytec Top Plate Spacer Kit. It includes a 1/2 inch spacer and longer studs.

    After installing I found that the ball joint boot is contacting the coil spring when the suspension is completely extended (truck up on jacks). I have tried adjusting the LCA alignment cams but it is still contacting, also I adjusted my Light Racing UCAs in all different directions but the ball joint still contacts the spring.

    Any ideas whats going on here?

    I am using Bilstein 5100 shocks set at .85 setting and OME 885 springs. I wanted to add the Toytec spacer to get an additional 3/4" lift.

    Here are some pictures.

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  2. Aug 3, 2011 at 10:28 AM
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    Are those OME or Eibach springs? I thought OME's were black.:confused:
    If they actually are OME 885's, put the 5100's back to 0 and let the springs to the lifting. No need to preload them and use a top plate spacer.
     
  3. Aug 3, 2011 at 10:28 AM
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    I thought with ome springs you had to set it at the 0
     
  4. Aug 3, 2011 at 10:29 AM
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    i have hit mine a couple times without spacers.
     
  5. Aug 3, 2011 at 10:31 AM
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    So if those really are 885's (I agree with Mike they look like eibachs to me), you have springs rated for 2.5" of lift, then you are preloading them another 0.85", and then you are putting a 3/4" top plate spacer on them. That's a total of 4.1" of lift. I'm not surprised at the contact with that much lift.
     
  6. Aug 3, 2011 at 10:33 AM
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    My 885's are black
     
  7. Aug 3, 2011 at 1:05 PM
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    Those arent 885 springs. Anyway, Remove the Top Plate spacer, and you wont have any contact.
     
  8. Aug 3, 2011 at 1:32 PM
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    I thought the top plate spacer was suppose to be installed on the driver side..........:confused:
     
  9. Aug 3, 2011 at 1:40 PM
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    My truck does this cause too much preload and top spacer extends travel too far total chaos UCA hits coil spring I rotated it as best as I could on mine but still rubs
     
  10. Aug 3, 2011 at 4:14 PM
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    Our thoughts exactly. If that is an 885 that you repainted silver, you are running way too much lift up front! What's your center hub to fender measurement up front? If your over 23-23.25", you are over 3"
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    is your uca on the wrong side? looks odd to me.


    edit: nah, maybe its not
     
  12. Aug 3, 2011 at 6:49 PM
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    Thanks for all the tips.

    They are 885 springs painted silver. They are old 885 springs that I bought used. They were giving me about 2 inches of lift with the 5100 shocks set at zero.

    I tried adding the top plate spacer with the shocks set at zero and the ball joint still hit the springs. So now I have just removed the spacer and set the 5100s at .85". Maybe I'll just try to sell the spacers.

    I'll have to measure my lift again. Thanks for all the help.
     
  13. Aug 3, 2011 at 6:57 PM
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    The more I think about it I guess that those 1/2 inch thick top plate spacers must not work with any shocks longer than stock.

    The only thing limiting the suspension from going down (when the vehicle is on jacks) is the extended length of the shock. So when you add a top plate spacer (above the shock) it extends the shock length and allows the suspension to extend 1/2 inch further. I am sure these top plate spacers work fine with normal length shocks, but maybe because the 5100s are a little longer than stock, the suspension cannot be allowed to extend that far down.

    What's your opinion?
     
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    The 5100s are the same length as stock at full droop.
     
  15. Aug 3, 2011 at 7:00 PM
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    Wouldn't a 1/2" top spacer add 1" of lift ?
     
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    It would if it is 1/2" thick.

    It's hard to tell when folks say a 1/2" spacer if they mean one that is advertised to give 1/2" lift, or one that is 1/2" thick.
     
  17. Aug 3, 2011 at 7:03 PM
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    From the pic , it looks to be 1/2" or the 10 mm
     
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    I agree. The actual spacer is 1/2 inch thick. The Toytec website says it provides 3/4 inch lift.
     
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    It gives 1".
     
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