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Total Chaos UCA retrofit with Icon Delta Joint

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by WacoTacoma, Mar 13, 2021.

  1. Mar 13, 2021 at 6:14 PM
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    WacoTacoma

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    After about 30,000 miles I figured it was time to refresh my Total Chaos UCAs with new bushings and uniballs. After shopping around for a few weeks I was shocked at the price for 2 new uniballs (almost $200) for a regular maintence part, that was just gonna wear out in another 2 years.

    So I looked into a different option that seemed like a good idea but I could not find very much information about. I wanted to take a Icon Delta Joint and put it into my Total Chaos UCA.

    For those that dont know what a Delta Joint is its basically a high angle greasable ball joint that claims to have the strength of a uniball. I dont want to get into the details of ball joint vs uniball you can look that up for your self. I just wanted to provide more information about this topic because when I was looking to see if this would even possible i couldn't find anything and I was kinda taking a shot in the dark.

    Here is how it went.

    First I ordered Icons Delta Joint (part 614560 for non-icon uca) from toytec lifts, which was the best price i could find at the time, as well as they were local ~$275

    I also purchase the adaper tube (part 614519) this was required install the new joint as a normal uniball/ball joint press would/might be too short ~$30

    Access to a hydraulic press will make this much easier.

    Pushing out the old uniball is pretty self explanitory, remove the snap ring and press out from top side, after pressing out I cleaned up and applied some anti seize to inside of the UCA. then I used the adapter to press in the new delta joint, reinstall the snap ring and thats it!

    Here are some of the pictues I took after the install and may answer some fitment questions.

    This is a close up of the joint at full articulation showing that the stem won't contact the arm at full droop
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    Here is a side by side comparison of the angle improvement of the new delta joint vs the old uniball, its subtle but it is an improvement
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    Before and After
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    This was a really straight forward modification that I think will last much longer than the uniball.
     
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  2. Jun 18, 2021 at 7:35 PM
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    Bump to get an update on this and how it’s held up for the last few months. This seems like a pretty sweet solution to a worn out uniball.
     
  3. Jun 20, 2021 at 6:24 PM
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    Ur misalignment spacer isn’t settled into the uniball so you are not getting the full angle out of that uniball .
     
  4. Jun 21, 2021 at 9:20 PM
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    So far so good. I grease the zerk fitting every 5000 miles and no issues for the first few months
     
  5. Jun 21, 2021 at 9:30 PM
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    I agree it does look that way, its not the greatest picture. However if you zoom in on the picture you can see that it isnt actualluy touching on top. the bottom spacer is engaged correctly so this should represent accurate deflection. However you may be correct, I cant remember the exact condition it was in when this picture was taken

    What mattered the most to me was that when everything was fully assymbled the shock fully extended before the joint even came close to maxing out.
    so regardless of the max angle my King extended coilovers wont max out this joint, and I assume that to be the same accross all tacomas.
     
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  6. Jun 21, 2021 at 9:34 PM
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    those uniballs are off the shelf nothing special about them at any offroad supply store such as Kartek, McKenzies, Offroad Warehouse , Summit Racing etc etc.. for under 50 bucks each
     
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    The tighter fit can affect ride quality on very light vehicles like a sand rail or small UTV.

    The tighter the fit to start with the longer the bearing will last, in theory.
     
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