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Towing > 5000 lbs.

Discussion in 'Towing' started by DPCardoza, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. Jul 30, 2012 at 9:21 AM
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    DPCardoza

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    I'd like some opinions from those who are pulling 5K+ travel trailers. I live in a valley so most of my camping is done in mountains. A fair amount of steep incline and decline is involved. The reason I ask is I have an opportunity for a smokin deal on a new 2011 Forrest River Roo 21SS that never sold. UVW is around 4300 lbs and I figure I'd be packing around about 800 lbs of cargo. Loaded Tongue weight is 630 lbs. I'm thinking it will be pushing it but was hoping to get some real life experience. The only thing I've ever pulled is my tent trailer which weighs about 3K loaded and ready to camp.
     
  2. Jul 30, 2012 at 9:31 AM
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    Tongue weight is near limit (650 lb) but within the truck's capabilities. You got a brake controller right?
     
  3. Jul 30, 2012 at 9:41 AM
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    What is the price they are offering you? I am assuming its 21 ft?

    You should be fine. Pack light and drive like a grandma (55mph). My trailer is 22ft and its about 4k dry.
     
  4. Jul 30, 2012 at 9:54 AM
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    I now tow a 3100lb Tent Trailer. But previously had a 30foot travel trailer with a dry weight of 4400lbs. Carried about 800-1000lbs of gear. You should be good with this set up for your truck. I had no problems.
     
  5. Jul 30, 2012 at 1:00 PM
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    Watch the TW, get a WD hitch and brake controller and you should be good.

    THe actual dry weight of the trailer is on a yellow sticker on the side of the trailer or near the door. This number is what you need to go on, it is the weight as it rolled off the line, and not the advertised weight. The advertised weight usually does not include accessories.
     
  6. Jul 30, 2012 at 1:20 PM
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    Yeah its the 21 ft. Its a leftover from 2011 but is new. Talked them down to 15K out the door. Vehicle weight per the sticker is 4283. Tongue weight says 630 lbs. I'll have the obvious stuff like wd hitch with sway control, brake controller and firestone airbags. I never haul water so its usually family, dogs, food and an ice chest.
     
  7. Jul 30, 2012 at 2:06 PM
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    As soon as you fill the LP tanks and add a battery, if it does not have one, you are going to be over the limit on TW. If you store anything up front in the trailer it will add to TW. My dry TW was 190 lbs. with 2 LP tanks and two batteries and everything g that is in storage in the front of the trailer , I now have a TW of over 350lbs(that as high as the scale goes). it adds up fast.

    Think it trough do the math. Sounds like a good deal but you may need a bigger truck.
     
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    I just picked up a travel trailer that came with WDH and sway. That hardware weighs a ton :).

    The concept of the WDH is to spread the weight to the axle of the trailer correct, thus reducing my tongue weight of stated 416 lbs?

    I know about that I have to add propane, etc.

    PSMCN- what model of rockwood trailer?
     
  9. Jul 31, 2012 at 6:00 AM
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    http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/de...SS&choice=roo&nav=rec&name=4009&series=Expand
    This model but a 2011.
     
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  11. Jul 31, 2012 at 11:46 AM
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    I have the 1809 mini lite. the taco pull it just fine

    The TW does not change on the Taco with WD because it is lite truck.
    The weight of the WDH is subtracted from the trucks cargo weight.

    That all being said,the Gen 2 w/4.0 towing package has a class IV hitch because the TW is rated at 650 Lbs w/ a 6500lbs trailer weight and a class III is rated at 500TW/5000 lbs. So as far as what the hitch will handle it could handle up to 1200lbs of TW and max TT of 12.000, but the Taco wouldn't do well. Just my 2cents. Don't put more than 650 lbs lbs of TW on a Taco stay with in the manufactures limits.
     
  12. Aug 4, 2012 at 9:16 PM
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    Thanks for all the advice. I passed on the trailer. I just wasn't comfortable pushing the max weight. Somebody will get a good deal if they have a half ton.
     
  13. Aug 5, 2012 at 7:26 AM
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    Gotta do what cha gotta do. THere are plenty of trailer deals to be had out there. That was a nice trailer. Keep looking and find one that is in your limits or get a bigger truck that can pull what you want.
     
  14. Aug 21, 2012 at 4:47 PM
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    I pull a 27' 6k TT. WDH and brake controller. You know it's there but able to maintain 60-65
     
  15. Aug 22, 2012 at 5:08 PM
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    As long as you are with in the limits of the TV and you are comfortable with it, and safe, it is all good. If you are over the limits and you have a crash you may be found liable if you are overloaded. That goes for TW as well as trailer weight.
     
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