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Towing question

Discussion in 'Towing' started by FlawedXJ, Jul 7, 2009.

  1. Jul 7, 2009 at 11:02 AM
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    FlawedXJ

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    I actually have a jeep now. Imagine that.
    I'm about to take the plunge on a utility trailer to haul my jeep on. I'm looking at a 7x12 or 7x14, or if the deal is right, a 7x16. My question now, with the trailer loaded with the jeep, I'm looking at around 4000-5300 lbs. I've called around to ask about weights on these trailers and it seems to be consistent that a 7x12 tandem axle trailer is gonna run about 1000 lbs, give or take. Now with the jeep loaded (about 3300 max) I'm looking at 4300 lbs. From what I can tell, thats quite a load. Now heres where I need some info,

    Will I be ok with just trailer brakes, or would I need some type of sway control or WD hitch? I've read through this whole towing thread and the bible and I'm still a little confused as to what I will need. Thanks in advance for the info.
     
  2. Jul 7, 2009 at 11:38 AM
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    Depends on how well balanced the trailer is. If evenly balanced, you may get away without a heavier hitch. I'm hauling a 3500+ lb. boat that is a bit nose heavy and it does okay. The TSB springs make a big difference. I added air bags to mine too and the truck supports the load well....without trailer brakes either.
     
  3. Jul 7, 2009 at 11:46 AM
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    Are you going to be moving it around alot?? Cause I would get the whole rig unless it's a very seldom used trailer.

    Always better to pay to play and safe...than skimp and be sorry.
     
  4. Jul 7, 2009 at 11:47 AM
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    at 4300 lbs, I'd look into a WD system. That's ~2/3 of the load rating for the taco. At the very minimum, get some kind of anti-sway sytem.
     
  5. Jul 7, 2009 at 12:46 PM
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    I actually have a jeep now. Imagine that.
    It will be used to tow my jeep about 300ish miles once every now and then on highways. Other wise, it should be just around town. Also, should i opt for two break axles, or will one be good enough.
     
  6. Jul 7, 2009 at 1:37 PM
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    I actually have a jeep now. Imagine that.
    Ok, after doing some research this is what I have come up with. I will most likely go with a WD hitch no matter what. Now my question is, Will this be sufficient?

    http://www.etrailer.com/pc-WD2~49568.htm

    That pretty much has everything I need minus the ball. I know a well balanced trailer will avoid sway, but I think that hitch mount has mounting holes for friction sway bars. If you guys think i would need sway bars no matter what, what do you think of this set up?

    http://www.etrailer.com/pc-WD2~66152.htm

    Only downside to this is, its over 100 bucks more, and doesn't come with a WD shank or hitch ball....another 130 bucks added to it. Thats out of my price range as of now.
     
  7. Jul 7, 2009 at 4:07 PM
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    bump for the evening guys
     
  8. Jul 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM
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    My camper is about 4000lb fully loaded.. it's 20' long with a single axle, I had serious sway problems when going downhill.. The trailer was pushing the truck, Installed a sway bar, problem solved.

    I am curious if because you have two axles, if you will even have that problem. I have the Spring TSB, and no WD hitch.. tows level, has front plow when not towing. WD definitely won't hurt your situation. From what I know, they sway and balance is all in the tongue weight.. the greater the percentage the better your handling. I only had about 10% tongue weight (400lb) as compared to the trailer weight, and I would not tow without the sway bar again. It was kind of scary.


    Hope it helps..

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    What he said.
     
  10. Jul 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM
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    Definitely do the weight distribution, and go for brakes on both axles, it makes a difference, especially at 4000# +. FWIW, I tow a tandem axle enclosed, that weighs about the same loaded as your proposed rig. I use a WD hitch very similar to the first one you posted from etrailer. It may not be designed as an anti-sway measure, but once it is set up properly, there is a small amount of anti-sway built in, just due to the tensions involved on all the components.

    Hope that helps.
     
  11. Jul 14, 2009 at 2:41 PM
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    Although, I've never towed with the tacoma...

    I did haul a Jeep with Grand Cherokee & Dodge Ram. The car hauler trailer we used, was a 14' open deck with slide out ramps. It weighed 1200lbs and was probably the perfect fit for a Wrangler.
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    Same trailer and different Jeeps
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    I'd keep the weight down as much as possible. Some of the 16' trailers can weigh up to 2000lbs. Shoot for a 14' open deck.

    I've never hauled with a weight distributing hitch myself, but if I were ever to haul that much weight with the tacoma - I'd certainly get one. You definately need to find the SWEET SPOT - where the jeep sits on the trailer for optimal tonque weight and best towing experience.
     
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