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Towing this?

Discussion in 'Towing' started by HulkHoganLogan, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. Feb 24, 2017 at 5:53 PM
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    I don't have that option, nor will I be towing it anymore than 150 miles one way. I think weight wise I'm absolutely fine, I'm just worried about too much sag on the back end and not being in full control brake wise, not to mention being harder on the back tires and suspension. Trailer didn't come with a WD and the last time I price checked Firestone airbags they were around $280.
    Agreed. I already know the mpg will suck and so will going 50-60mph in a 75 zone but oh well.
     
  2. Feb 24, 2017 at 6:00 PM
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    Mine is on 285s with a 3 leaf AAL in the rear. It does sag with the trailer hitched but controllability is not affected.
     
  3. Feb 24, 2017 at 6:02 PM
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    Isn't the tsb a 4 leaf AAL? Or am I mistaken? I have whatever the tsb is.

    Disregard, I believe I have an add a leaf on it from my lift.
     
  4. Feb 24, 2017 at 6:04 PM
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    TSB is a 4 leaf pack, I added an additional 3 leaf Wheelers AAL for a total of 7.
     
  5. Feb 24, 2017 at 6:08 PM
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    Hmmm, I'll have to check in the morning how many I have. I have 450# of sandbags in the bed right now and there's very little to no sag.
     
  6. Feb 24, 2017 at 7:23 PM
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    Honestly, if that's the weight you will be towing, I really don't think you need to do much at all. That's not that heavy. One suggestion is, when you are loading your trailer, try to keep the weigh even from front to back of the trailer. You won't need after market leaf packs, you said you just had the TSB done. Although keep in mind the factory leafs aren't all that great. Seeing that you are towing a utility trailer, you won't be using a weight distribution set up, so I would probably recommend installing air bags (ride rite), this will keep the truck from sagging and help with evening the truck and trailer. There are other options you could go with instead of the air bags, I.E. helper springs, add a leaf, or timbren suspension support (timbren.com). I have used a helper spring and the timbren before I installed the air bags on my truck. Air bags are way better, but it's more costly. The only other thing I would suggest is a larger transmission cooler. I only say that because The ones on our trucks are useless, way too small. I also don't know how often you will be towing, or what your typical driving conditions will be. You will need to decide on that. remember transmissions start to fail when its temp gets over 250*f for a long period of time, or even several times.
     
  7. Feb 24, 2017 at 7:37 PM
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    Trailer is 13' long and will be hauling a Polaris rzr 1000 (1700# wet), 1-2 coolers and possibly 3-6 jerry cans of fuel. The trailer itself is 950# so I'm estimating the total weight somewhere between 3200-3800 depending on my trip. As for keeping it even, I'm assuming I'd want the rzr all the way to the front with coolers/jerry cans in the back..or should I reverse them? From my experience, more tongue weight or more infront of the trailer axle is better than too little.
     
  8. Feb 24, 2017 at 7:40 PM
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    Yes you are correct, try to keep more weight up front, that's where the air bags will come in handy, because the more tongue weight the more the truck will sag, but you don't want all the weight to the rear of the trailer either. Ideally you would like to keep the heaviest cargo over the axel of the trailer.
     
  9. Feb 24, 2017 at 7:44 PM
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    Gonna load it up this weekend and see how it looks. I figure if the trucks back suspension goes down more then 2 inches I'll start hunting for a good deal on air bags. If not I'll keep it as is.
     
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    Air bags for the leaf springs
    weight distribution hitch
    brake controller
    Common sense

    With those four you'll be good.
     
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    That's a good idea, see what it looks like first. Maybe even take it for a short test pull to be sure the truck and trailer aren't fighting each other. If it doesn't sag too bad, but you want it slightly better, go with the timbrens, they are cheaper than air bags. Too bad you weren't closer, I think I still have my helper springs somewhere in my garage.
     
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    Which product were you referring to on timbren?
    This is what came up for my truck.
    http://timbren.com/ses-kit-lookup/
     
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  14. Feb 25, 2017 at 4:39 AM
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    If you have a 3 leaf then the TORTUN4L will work, if you have a 4 leaf then the TORTUN4 will work. watch the video on these springs under the view section of the product, they work well. I used the TORTUN4, but I was towing a heavy camper that's why I switched to the air bags.
     
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    I can assure you that the TORTUN4 set up will fit. They fit on my 13 DCSB 4X4, I don't see why they wouldn't fit on your 2010. It has nothing to do with the TSB, the TSB didn't change the design of the springs. The springs are still OEM.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback. I posted before researching enough..common problem with me haha. Anyone know a good site to buy these on? Jet and Amazon are the same price ~$214. Was hoping for something under $200. If anyone has a set I'm willing to buy.
     
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    Did you check the Timbren web site. www.timbren.com, go to the locate dealer tab, click find a dealer, then click online dealers, this gives you the list of the online dealers that sells the product. click onto suspension connection, they are selling for 214.00 but are having a 10% off sale. check it out.
     
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  19. Feb 25, 2017 at 7:07 AM
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    It's not 3500#. That is dry weight. Loaded for camping will tip the scales over 4500# easily, probably more. Start putting gear in there and it adds to your weight. WD, sway control, and brakes will help. But I still think... Doesn't matter, read this
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-tacoma-towing-bible.4031/
     
  20. Feb 25, 2017 at 8:43 AM
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    You misread the post, loaded weight us 3200-3800lbs.
     

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