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"Toyota" brand oil?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Nick13, May 13, 2018.

  1. Aug 20, 2018 at 9:27 PM
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    Herniator

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    I heard that the Toyota oil is the same as Mobil 1 but with a few more additives in it.
     
  2. Aug 20, 2018 at 9:39 PM
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    Lol 0W-20 from ANY brand is going to be the same except for a few additives and modifiers.
     
  3. Aug 20, 2018 at 9:43 PM
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    There’s more to it then that. But the main thing is to the oil changes on schedule and you will be fine.
     
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  4. Aug 20, 2018 at 11:32 PM
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    You are right.
    I was being simplistic and here is a quote from an article written this year. This is just one of dozens that say the same thing... name brand oil at proper viscosity is fine and there is no appreciable difference. Here it is:
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    Is there a difference between motor oil brands?
    The fact is, there’s very little difference between brands of motor oil. Blackstone Laboratories has tested motor oil using inductive-coupled plasma spectrometry since 1985. We asked company president Ryan Stark if he’d seen any oils that perform consistently better or worse, based on his test results. “No. If you stick with a name brand oil, you really can’t go wrong. If you did a side by side test between two brands you might see a 1 or 2 parts per million difference in the metals in the results.”

    Jim Morrissey, a junior automotive technical support engineer with Royal Purple, was candid when we asked him how a consumer could choose between two oils on a store shelf. “There are ways of determining a minimum standard, like the API certification, but when you’re dealing with a premium product, there really is no third party available to evaluate the product…Determining which is ‘the best’ can be nebulous.”

    We also spoke with Bob Gugino, owner of Bison Automotive & Detail in Kenmore, New York, and a mechanic for 35 years. He told us, “As far as brand names, Valvoline, Mobil, Castrol, there’s not a whole lot of difference between them. They all make a lot of claims, that their oil is better at this or that, but they all have to meet a certain spec.”

    own FAQ for the company’s synthetic SynPower has a hard time coming up with any appreciable differences between brands: “How does Valvoline SynPower compare to Mobil 1 and Amsoil? Valvoline’s SynPower synthetic motor oils meet and exceed the same specifications as these two products.”

    Similarly, on Internet forums dedicated to motor oil, where people can get downright religious about their favorite brands, you’ll find plenty of “oil is oil” advice. A user named SteveSRT8 at the Bob is the Oil Guy forum said in 2012, “Seriously, we run a fleet with all 6.0 [liter engines] and a few 5.3s and they run nearly forever. Our secret? Pick whatever synthetic is on sale and change when the OLM says to. Pretty simple. And we have as severe a duty cycle as anything in the entire world.”

    Finally, we asked Philip Reed, senior consumer advice editor for Edmunds.com, if there are appreciable differences between brands of motor oil. He said, “Keep in mind that oil chemistry in all oils is vastly improved in recent years. So if you stick with the name brands, you can’t go too far wrong. … With that in mind, I’d have to say that Mobil seems most active in offering a wide range of oils for a range of cars of different ages.”

    On top of these similarities, almost all oil manufacturers attach a warranty to their product guaranteeing that your engine won’t blow up because of a defect in the oil. Some of these warranties require exclusive use of their brand (with the receipts to prove it), while others cover your engine within a given number of miles or months from when you put the oil in (again, with receipts as proof). That these warranties are so generous indicates how consistent and durable modern oils are—and how difficult it would be to prove that an engine failure was not due to a prior defect or other reason unrelated to the oil."
     
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  5. Aug 21, 2018 at 1:48 AM
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    The biggest difference between oils is not so much Dino or Synthetics, but base stock, add packs and viscosity index (VI).

    Keep in mind oils shear down to thinner viscocities especially in 10k miles OCI. A 30wt can become a 20wt and a 20wt can become a 15wt by the time you change the oil, not that it’s bad as long as there’s a tbn total base number left so there’s protection.

    Oils especially higher Group synthetics (like Group V pure ester Redline, Amsoil and Motul) don’t really break down, the oil just gets contaminated with water, gas, exhaust, dirt, etc over the OCI. This is the same for Dino and even lesser Group III synthetics like Mobil 1. There’s plenty of owners that will change their gear oil to synthetic (or even Dino) and never change it again since it’s non combustion.

    Regarding Mobil 1, that’s why it’s so cheap, it’s barely a synthetic, plus they make blends, but even other brand Dino oil is top of the line these days because of oil technology and add packs.

    Big rigs will install huge remote filters that filter down to a few microns and they’ll run their oil for 50,000 miles or more. Seriously, a lot of them actually do this to save money since they have several gallons capacities.

    Also, a 20wt oil can actually be a high 20wt like 28wt starting out as virgin oil. There’s a lot to keep in mind and TGMO is perfectly fine oil, most likely an M1 variant.
     
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  6. Aug 21, 2018 at 3:13 AM
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    For all you OiL iS oIL people, you should see this video:
    https://youtu.be/a9DWGtXpYUc
    The fact is that mobil 1 protected the bearing better than the other 2 during the abrasion test in the video. Even though Amazon brand was close, it wasn't as good.
     

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