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Toyota Care Synthetic Oil?

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by TacoSport, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. Sep 28, 2011 at 5:20 AM
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    Mine is 0w-20. The widow sticker says synthetic oil. The first stuff I got from toyota said oil change at 5000 miles, the reminder letter I got didn't include the oil change. I guess i will find out soon.

    I don't care for my local dealers service dept, so I will probably take to the dealer where I purchased it about an hour away. If they don't change it, i will and I will resent Toyota for it.
     
  2. Sep 28, 2011 at 5:01 PM
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    TacoSport [OP] opinions are like assholes; everyones got one.

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    Interesting, mine reads 5w30. Will check my window sticker this weekend to if it states oil used.
     
  3. Sep 28, 2011 at 5:06 PM
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    Because you have a V6 and he has an L4. We've been through this.
     
  4. Sep 28, 2011 at 6:31 PM
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    The poster never said he had an L4 and I am aware of the difference, the OP is clear that this thread is for a V6 only -read it.
     
  5. Sep 28, 2011 at 7:33 PM
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    I'm a tech at a Toyota dealership and I can sum all this confusion up for you. Heres the deal, the only cars Toyota ships with syt oil run the 0w20 oil. All others come with conv oil. You can swap to syt if you want to in any of them but toyota syt oil only comes in 0w20 so if they put that in your 4.0L that is not good, that stuff is way to thin for it. You want to run syt 5w30 oil and you will need to go aftermarket for that because toyota does not make that. They will most likely try and sell your mobile 1 or castoral at some crazy $9-$11 a quart price. The problem is that 99% of people at the dealerships do not fully read the info toyota sends out about this stuff all year when stuff is updated, they just schim threw it. Toyota isn't the problem, its the lazy people at the dealerships you guys are going to. Also, as far as oil change intervals go, both tacoma motors, L4 and V6 have 5k oil changes, even though the new L4 takes syt. All the other toyota vehicles that come with syt are designed for a 10k oil change. I'm going to put either amsoil or mobile 1 syt in my 2011 taco when I do my first oil change. I would not recommend extending an oil change though, plenty of people do it without issues but personally I don't like the thought of it being in there that long. If you want to run syt and bring it to a dealership my suggestion is to buy your own oil and bring it and let them do it with the toyota filter. But do NOT run 0w20 in the 4.0L V6.
     
  6. Sep 28, 2011 at 7:38 PM
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    owners manual doesnt state synthetic.
     
  7. Sep 28, 2011 at 7:47 PM
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    Thanks, I don't think TOYO Care has helped one bit on this and if anything made things more confusing for both the dealer and myself. I am planning to go back to doing my own oil changes (M1 5w30 EP) so I can avoid this type of S in the future. They can rotate the tires :D
     
  8. Sep 28, 2011 at 7:51 PM
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    That is correct! The TOYO Care package I was sent states my V6 DOES use Synthetic, it also has my VIN on it. The owners manual is at least one year older and generic to all models. Which one should be more relevant to the oil my truck should use?
     
  9. Sep 28, 2011 at 7:52 PM
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  10. Sep 28, 2011 at 7:53 PM
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    i let them put whatever they want in it since its free. as soon as i start doing it myself ill be putting what i want in it.

    you get what you pay for.
     
  11. Sep 28, 2011 at 7:58 PM
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    Bingo :facepalm:
     
  12. Sep 29, 2011 at 5:28 AM
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    You asked me what my oil cap says and I told you. You said in the original post your truck is a V6, you didn't say anything about this being a V6 only thread.

    Anyway, the answer to question of viscosity and oil change interval is in the link I posted a few posts back. I don't think the v6 requires or comes with synthetic. As long as it is changed at 5000 miles it doesn't really matter.
     
  13. Sep 29, 2011 at 5:46 AM
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    I bought my 2011 TRD Sport in July 2011 and my Toyota Care booklet says on the second to last page or page 5 under Service intervals

    5000 mile interval
    Inspect and adjust all fluid levels.
    Replace engine oil and oil filter.
    Rotate tires
    Multi-Point Vehicle Inspection

    10000 mile interval
    Inspect and adjust all fluid levels.
    Replace engine oil and oil filter.
    Rotate tires
    Multi-Point Vehicle Inspection

    15000 mile interval
    Inspect and adjust all fluid levels.
    Replace engine oil and oil filter.
    Rotate tires
    Multi-Point Vehicle Inspection

    20000 mile interval
    Inspect and adjust all fluid levels.
    Replace engine oil and oil filter.
    Rotate tires
    Multi-Point Vehicle Inspection

    25000 mile interval
    Inspect and adjust all fluid levels.
    Replace engine oil and oil filter.
    Rotate tires
    Multi-Point Vehicle Inspection

    My Plastic Card - that has my name - effective date - Vin number

    say oil type - conventional

    I don't drive a lot and only have 1,500 miles on my truck so it will be a while till I go to the dealer to see if they will actually change my oil at 5000 miles ?
     
  14. Sep 29, 2011 at 9:24 AM
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    Point is that we all know the L4 comes with synthetic oil and it is the V6 that is in question here and that is why I started the post.

    BTW my response was to another posters comments
     
  15. Sep 29, 2011 at 10:22 AM
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    Did you read the whole thing and just look for something to dispute me on? Clearly I meant toyota brand oil, I don't know who physically makes the shit. It comes in a toyota bottle and that's what dealerships carry.

    This is the sythetic oil that toyota "makes" and so any other weight sythetic they use is not going to be toyota brand. Most likely mobile 1 or castoral.

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  16. Sep 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM
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    You can bring your oil and the toyota care will pay for them to do an oil change with your oil you bring, it will only cover the labor though not the oil.
     
  17. Sep 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM
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    Unfortunately, Mobil1 is not synthetic, it is a class 3 petroleum base. M1 is labeled synthetic due to a court case allowing it. A true synthetic has a very different molecular structure than dino, even though it is made from petroleum products(esters). Think of M1 as a top class dino, not synthetic.
     
  18. Sep 29, 2011 at 11:35 AM
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    I'm sure the oil comes from some other commany's factory and they just throw it in that bottle. But that is what the dealerships use and that is what toyota care pays for. Also on a side note, I'm assuming you are aware that toyota really only makes the base body/wiring/engine also. All the components are out sorced to other company's. (denso,dephi,ect.) The majority of product failures are not due to toyota, its usually the company that produces that individual part.
     
  19. Sep 29, 2011 at 1:45 PM
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    That's why I use the Extended Protection

    http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Extended_Performance_5W-30.aspx
     
  20. Oct 2, 2011 at 4:16 PM
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    First off,the EPA has alot to do with the 0w-20 oil...on paper,the vehicle does get better mileage....but,it is still ,ONLY, 0w-20 oil,synthetic or not,you still have a combustion engine. Change the oil regularly...3000 miles...synthetic is for extreme comditions,hot or cold...thats it. Synthetic has better flow characteristics and breakdown tolerences,that is it!....change the oil regularly.
     

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