Toyota pickup vs Toyota tacoma

...^^^... Americans got fatter (needed a bigger truck) and wanted more options and feel like they are sitting in their living room (heated seat) easy chair while 4 wheeling over the mall speed bumps.

Gone are the real men who drove solid axles, exterior lock hubs, 4 speeds with granny gears.

PS ... I have had 12 Toyota trucks and my favorite was a 22R with a single wall bed ... loved that little truck.

 

Here's a personal observation that solely based on over 50 years of watching cars that eventually become "cult classics".

I've seen vehicles that hold their resale value over their competitors are more likely to move into cult status than others.

It doesn't matter about which product is the best seller during the production run.

Its about retaining aftermarket value in the first 5 to 10 years that carries a particular vehicle for the long haul.

In our case Tacoma tops the list. We win. Game over.

Light-Duty Pickups: Average Depreciation

1. Toyota Tacoma, 29.5 percent
2. Toyota Tundra, 37.1
3. Honda Ridgeline, 37.2
4. Nissan Frontier, 37.8
5. Chevrolet Silverado 1500, 39.7
6. GMC Sierra 1500, 39.9
7. Ram 1500, 42.7
8. Ford F-150, 44.1
9. Nissan Titan, 44.7

https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2018/10/which-pickups-depreciate-the-least.html

 

and they don't even list the actual real competitors to the 1st gen Tacoma in there
Ranger, S-10, Dakota
those must be more than 50%

 

It's actually very wise. He's lucky he's been a cultist on things that are actually well designed and made, like Toyota and Nissan

 

Very well said and I'd second your opinion as well

 

Yeah those are gonna be real bad, REAL BAD

 

You like what you like !!

Most times with no thought involved .

About like which is better Big boobs or little ones ??

Straight Hair or Curly ?

No real correct answer no matter the facts

 

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..^^^... I bought a 2016 SR5, V6, XM, Auto, 4x2, Access Cab, Tacoma new for $27,015 (no taxes) .... kept it in perfect shape .... put about 25,000 miles on it in 40 months and sold it for $27,000. .... it costs me $15.00 plus expenses to drive it.

That was the sweet spot to purchase a Tacoma and the prices also went up in 3 years.

 

i have seen on the local streets some old Ford Rangers that have been very well kept from afar observation passing on the roads
and older Ford Rangers seem to greatly outnumber older 1st gen Tacomas around here, the ones without the crutches anyways

 

I'll bet in most regions around you, the last gen Rangers will outnumber the first gen Tacos

 

We've got a number of old Rangers around here that pop up for sale cheap. I know they are reliable and cheap to fix.

Interestingly, I've collected so many tools and techniques that are specific for Toyota and Nissan that I feel like I'm working on something foreign when I attempt to work on a domestic. If that makes any sense..

 

Makes perfect complete sense to me lol
I love turning a wrench on things that are quality. Which is why I loved my first 94 Nissan Hardbody pickup. At 22, I was severely mentally challenged and purchased a Jeep Cherokee. I know, I know. I learned, I promise.this was around 2001 or so. Had that thing for a year and started noticing more and more oil coming into the air intake....I already despised working on the PO, so I found that Nissan pickup at a dealership that my pops was friends with the owner, and it only had 30k miles. Wiped all the oil out of the intake and straight traded it in to dealer because I would've felt bad selling it private party. Anywho, that Nissan was/is so reliable. My pops bought it off me like 8 years ago and still DDs it
So yes, I totally understand that Japanese feels like domestic and vice versa feeling

 

I've had both. I prefer the looks of the 1989-1995 "Pickup" but the 1995.5-2004 Tacoma is better in every other way. The 22RE plastic timing chain guides are a joke. They break into pieces, fall into the oil pan and partially block the oil pickup screen. If you use the "correct" valve clearance specification it will clatter like an old sewing machine. When you're tuning it, you have to close your eyes and ignore the timing light for it to run the best. Then after all that it will still be absurdly underpowered. The 22RE is legendary because despite its many shortcomings it was STILL way better than domestic small engines of the era.

A 22RE Pickup makes a 3RZ Tacoma feel like a muscle car in comparison. Additionally, the Pickup interior door panels and dashboard are comically shitty. It is rare to find one without ripped grandma skin vinyl door cards or cracks in the brittle tissue-thin dash. The interior materials are infinitely more durable in the 1st gen Tacoma. I've owned a 1993 Pickup, my current 2003 Tacoma and a 2nd gen Tacoma. To me the 1st gen Tacoma is where Toyota peaked. But don't get me wrong, the pre-Tacoma pickups still have that cult of personality that makes them endearing and really fun to drive.

 

Dear Everybody,

Here are the fundamental differences between the Toyota four cylinder engines, the Tacoma 3.4 V6 with out going into detail on the technicalities of each motor. They are both great engines by the way as far as reliability goes. To all the serious mechanically talented members, I know there are a lot more differences than what I am going to talk about in this post. In this post, I am just trying to give members in this thread a general idea of the differences between these two motors.

The Toyota 2.7 inline 4 cylinder is a much simpler motor than its 3.4 V6 sibling. It is a single head, which makes everything inside the engine compartment extremely accessible with the exception of the fuel filter. These Toyota four bangers use a timing chain rather than a timing belt. Timing chains are replaced much less frequently than timing belts. As a result of their simplicity, size and configuration, this motor is both easier and cheaper to maintain and repair than its larger Toyota 3.4 V6 sibling. They will get also get better gas mileage. Although, I am told this is not a significant difference.

The Toyota 5VZ-FE 3.4 liter V6 engine is a very sophisticated motor for its time with two heads and double overhead cams per head. It uses a timing belt instead of a chain, which has to be replaced every 90,000 miles. As a result of its size and configuration, it occupies a lot of space in the engine compartment, which makes getting at things much more difficult. It is going to be both the more expensive and complicated motor to both maintain and repair, but it is going to have significantly more horsepower and torque than its smaller sibling. Please do not assume from my analysis of this engine that this motor is difficult to work on. I have surgically engineered hands, and I have done plenty to out little 3.4 as far as maintenance.

Neither the first generation Tacoma, or the older generation Toyota pickup are going to be very refined pickup trucks as far as interior or ride quality. They are both dinosaurs by today's standards as far as ride quality or ergonomics of the interior.

Hope that helps,
Paul

 

I can't believe this thread is still going, I thought that everything that could be said had been covered. I'm glad I didn't put myself through this "overkilled" thought process when I purchased my 03 DC V6 Limited.