Toyota possibly scamming N.A. customers to up sell?

New guy here trying to understand, what appears to be shady business practices by Toyota in North America..Could be wrong but don't think so..its possible I'm missing something.. So in other countries outside of North America the 2.7L 2TR-fe has a tow capacity of 2,500 KGs = 5,500 lbs..but in North America its only rated for 3,500 lbs..vs the 3.5L V6 6,500 lbs of tow capacity..there is only a 80lb of torque difference between the two engines..
If tow capacity is based on several factors such as frame, transmission, suspension, rear end etc..The 3.5L V6 Tacoma shares the exact parts as the 2TR-fe model with the only exception of the actual engine..sure the 2TR-fe has 180lbs of torque vs the 260 lbs of torque of the 3.5L V6..Toyota is saying in North America 80lbs of torque is a 3,000 lb towing difference..and won't sell a new 2TR-fe with a trailer hitch at all..I believe its a marketing strategy to up sell customers into buying the V6 engine at expensive mark up.. I'm missing something here ?
I just want a rock solid, long lasting med sized truck that gets great fuel economy..Which the 2TR-FE models fit the bill, if the V6 was cheaper I would still pay more for the 2TR-FE model..
Toyota also seems to punish the 2TR-FE customers by not allowing even some of the basic options available..basically if you want the 2TR-FE engine you can only order a bone stock base model..further pushing customers into the V6 to even be able to select any upgraded features..

 

Yeah huge scam. you caught them.

 

Honda Ridgeline sounds like a good pick for you

 

Or a Testicule

 

It's really a scam perpetrated by Ford. Toyota is in on it. Toyota wants North Americans to buy the Ranger.

 

Because rules. Namely, in the US, these rules: https://www.sae.org/standards/content/j2807_202002

 

Great trolling jokes about growing a pair or buying some unibody car that looks almost kinda like a truck. How about some pink electric front wheel drive p.o.s. etc..Instead of actually discussing the issue at hand.. if I wanted a unreliable engine that has sluggish power delivery and a long history of shitting the bed sure I would buy the 3.5L V6 model which is about as bad as the horrible models made by Ford,Chevy,Dodge etc.. So thanks for reaching out to new members with such helpful advice..
So how many 500k to 700k mile 3.5L V6 models out there on the original engine and transmission? Because there's alot of 2.7L 2TR-FE models with that mileage on the original engine and transmissions..as well as getting 22mpg to 24mpg..

 

Something something cake and eat it too?

 

Are you just a text book jockey, or do you actually own something that needs towing?

And if you think that 5500# is a reasonable tow number for the 2.7, regardless of where it lives, you'd be wrong. It's not even a real great number for the v6, which is rated 1k more. Very road & weather condition and trailer aerodynamic dependent.

If you actually have something that heavy, Tundra or another marquee is where you want to be.

 

Sounds like you're really crabby and already made up your mind, but... The missing ingredient here is time. You trot out somebody that racks up 500K+ on a 2016 or newer truck, and I'll show you like a handful that did that in their 90's Tacoma they bought new.

 

Oh and for the record, these V6 engines don't have a "long history of shitting the bed" like a forced-induction domestic, and I get 22 mpg with a lift and tires, so


I honestly think hometown here is just venting that you can't find a good-value four-banger pickup truck these days that isn't poverty spec. Honestly, same bro.

 

I would say not an overwhelming amount, but this configuration of engine/vehicle doesn't have quite the amount of time out in the real world as the 2.7. Time will tell I suppose.

 

The people who dont understand why a 2.7 shouldnt tow more than 3500 pounds are the same people who dont understand why they shouldn't set the cruise control at 85 when towing their triple axle gooseneck toy hauler.

 

Some valid points as well as unneeded trolls that distract from the point..and yes I'm still in anger management classes..working on my masters..
Sure if I actually had to tow something more than a small boat or small camper I would buy a full sized truck without a question..
The Tacoma in question is just to be used as a Home Depot / Lowes pick up some materials, tow light weight trailers and as a 2nd utility vehicle beater..so not having a Cappuccino marker in it isn't a problem..the issue is what Toyota has chosen to do by not have a trailer hitch option or even a single upgradeable option.. I have plans to be the 1st and last owner of the Tacoma, as I have two other vehicles that rotate as daily drivers..

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_GR_engine

Scroll down to the 2gr section and expand it. Then look how many years and vehicles have had the 2gr... It's def proven itself just as long as the 2tr, less one whole year...

 

I agree with you, the 2gr is plenty proven (in my opinion). I was poking a hole in OP's argument by saying there's probably not an overwhelming amount of 500k+ 2GR's in Tacomas verses the 2TR in Tacomas, given that particular combo (2GR in a Tacoma) has only been available for a few years, verses 20ish years on the other.

 

Welcome to TW!

 

This is very odd, the OP has posted and replied to this thread numerous time, but his message count stays at zero? This is the best trolling this site has ever seen:

 

Well since you're searching for an answer just wait long enough. The new new new tako is allegedly going to be powered by a four banger with a turbo. Maybe that will wet your appetite and fill your sore tummy at the same time.