Toyota Prices Tundra Pickup Above Rivals

RANT!?! No one rants on here!

I personally don't want to see anyone lose their job, but my past vehicle experience has driven me away from 'American motors'.

1986 Ford Ranger V6 2WD Manual: I got to drive this truck a ton as it was one of my father's companie's service trucks. We bought it brand new, and put 3 new engines in it over the course of 7 years before it ended up being totaled and putting one of my dad's employees in the hospital (he got rear ended and pushed into a car ahead of him).

1991 Pontiac Sunbird 4cyl Automatic: This was my car after some one stole my 89' Honda Accord (we were waiting on an insurance check). This vehicle caught fire when a fuel line wiggled loose on it's own. Then, a month later the bearings failed on the tensioner pully. The resulting debris scatter put a hole in the radiator. Sold with 45,000 miles on it.

2005 Jeep Liberty CRD 4x4: Purchased with 10,000 miles on it. I got to drive it a total of 3,200 miles. On a trip to the Four Corners area, the transmission started giving us terrible problems. It spent 4 months in shop in NM (remember, I live/work in Houston - 1800 miles away). The dealership in NM and the dealership in TX that sold it to me could not figure out what was wrong with it. I traded it to get my wife's 06 Rav4 V6 Sport.

OF COURSE there is always the exception to the rule...

1994 Chevrolet Suburban V8 Auto 2WD: My parents bought this vehicle as I was learning how to drive. It got passed back and forth between my parents and I. I purchased it from them in college. Together, we put 228,000 miles on it. My poor Suburban died saving my life. I was rear end by a 1982 Toyota Hilux pickup. He was doing 65, and I was at a dead stop. The Suburban could have been fixed, but because of the excessive mileage the insurance company totaled it.

Aside from my Suburban, I will not look fondly upon my experience with 'American Motors'. I have loved Toyotas, Hondas, Subarus, and Volkswagens (and to a lesser extent - my 1986 Mazda RX-7) for years.

I just hope that the big 3 remove head from rectum and give America real vehicles - soon. Otherwise there will be no more real American Motors.

 

I agree completely!

 

Yes, I totally agree. Consumers are starting to wise up!

 

I really tried to stay loyal to Dodge, heck read my handle here backwards. I did a lot of research and look what I came up with. For me its was economics pure and simple. The big 3 are going through what the farmers, inurance companies, ship builders, airlines, ect. have all gone through at some point in time. Whether it was of their own doing or not. I do not wish them to fail, I hope they get back on track.

 

I hope so too. If the Big 3 fail, it would be a serious blow to the US economy, not just from all the lost jobs, but the economic and industrial might of America would be severly tainted. I read that Daimler Chrysler is looking to sell off Chrysler, and it might be bought up by the Koreans or Chinese. England's automotive industry is all but non-existent these days, and it hurt their economy. I just hope the Big 3 start to wise up and build a viable range of vehicles, stop asking for govenrment bailouts and start compete in the capitalist market that they so often promote.

 

Actually. i got every pennies worth out of the `74 Power Wagon and still use what`s left of it on the farm. They just do not make them anymore.
Those suckers are tough and the feds bought millions. You will never lack for parts.
But they are utility and I am old.

 

Well said, your statement is sure to be agreed on by others who have been shafted by the big 3. My personal view is for the continued success of toyota and in the renewal of customer care and gratification by the detroit car mongers.

 

Hey Col. what branch?

 

Crossed Rifles.

 

Gabby Johnson's right about Howard Johnson being right! This strong discussion is perhaps above my paygrade, but here is my $0.02.

I have had 10 cars in my lifetime. 2 Honda's, 3 Toyota's, 2 Jeeps, 1 Audi, and 2 Fords. Out of all of those cars/trucks/suv's the Honda's and Toyota's have given me little to no problems. A clutch here or there, a new belt, some tires, but always something routine for the age of the vehicle. Both of my Jeeps (one of which I still own) needed/need parts all the time. Perhaps that is because of age, but mostly because they are Jeeps. The same goes for the Fords. The truck was a complete piece that I ended up selling to a friend who LOVES Fords! The Mustang I purchased with 20,000 miles on it and the first summer it constantly overheated. Ford told me that was a problem with those models and I needed to replace the radiator. Not Ford, me! I pleaded my case and even got it reviewed by an independent panel Ford brings in to review warranty claims not honored by the dealers. I lost! There reasoning is that it was a problem only effecting southern cars and was not a widespread issue that warranted a recall only a TSB.

As much as I like some of the models that the Big 3 produce, I just can't talk myself into buying another one. Toyota is my brand, so they better keep making cars, trucks, and SUV's I like.

 

A Tacoma is a Mid-Sized truck. It will never replace an F-150, Silverado, Sierra, Ram or Titan. Being said, I don't feel a Ranger, Colorado, Canyon or Dakota compare. Of course its personal opinion, but I feel I got the best value without spending 30k +. Not sure what a "real" truck is, but I feel I have one in my Tacoma

 

Wow this thread blew up.. Thing is Toyota isnt going to take over anything when it comes to full size trucks and diesels!! The big three have been making full size trucks and diesels for so many years. Their trucks are proven, they last, and they are dependable. Toyota is a family vehicle/luxury vehicle. If people want full size trucks that dam* sure dont look toward Toyota. The cummins is a real hard engine to compete with. Its going to take years of work to compete with these three... besides, toyota dsoesnt make a 3/4 or 1 ton truck yet. Hell, just a few years ago did they come out with full size trucks. It will be years before you see Toyota compete in the REAL full size truck market.

 

I have a 1 Ton 1962 GMC that I am willing to replace the rear main seal on.
They don`t build them like that anymore.
To be fair the Tundra has had three 500,000 + recalls that I have heard of.
I almost bought one,
The Taco has had no problems that I ,or Consumer Reports are aware of.
Yes it is not a 1/2 ton. But when is the last time you put three scoops of sand in your PU and twisted the drive shaft?

 

In my opinion the Tundra is highly over-rated. My good friend just bought one, and i really like it, but its not worth the money and i think it got pushed out too fast resulting in alot of problems. I think Toyota is on the right path but they need to make some changes. Someone on one of the other threads mentioned that Toyota thinks their sh*t don't stink and he has a good point. People will pay more for a quality product but to compete with other full size trucks they need to be competitive with price too. Hopefully toyota will get there soon..... and start offering diesels in their trucks

 

AMEN, Rev. Couch!!!

 

OMG,
What a discussion. I owned 3 yes 3 Chev astro AWD vans, Chev S-10 4X4, Dodge Dakota Clubcab 4X4, and all except the Dodge cost me a fortune to keep on the road. Finally got some sense. My first Toyota was a 1984 4X4 pick-up, along came kids, so went truck. Purchased a new 2005 Tacoma d-cab 4x4. What a pleasure, purchased in CANADA at my local dealer.(jobs) My main squeeze has had 3 hondas now drives a Subaru Legacy Touring. Bye Bye chev!

 

two thumbs up dude! I'm with you all the way and f#$@ them when they can't take someone's opinion and if they consider themselves poor too bad they must have a low self esteem.

 

Thought this tread died long ago. Since my last entry I purchased a new 2008 F-150 Q-Cab Lariat with 5.4 Tritan engine all leather, Temp control 6 cd changer serious radio, 19 inch rims, ARE hard cover for the bed, tow package and more. Could not be happier.

 

Would not fit in last post. The only thing that scares me is to look in mirror and see a Toyota. Don't know if it will run away and ram me or the brakes won't hold at the next stop and damage my Truck.

 

Wow! A new member revives a two-year-old thread and it gets a response from a long-time member who hasn't posted for 1.5 years. Is very powerful the Tacoma World reach young Skywalker.