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Toyota put nail in coffin of access cab

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by hahnster, May 22, 2023.

  1. May 25, 2023 at 7:33 AM
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    The most important thing to Tacoma customers is the truck's garageability. Toyota let's go places! The smaller footprint probably doesn't hurt when it's time to load the truck on the ship, train, or truck. It's not like it's a problem shipping fullsize trucks & SUV. There are definitely advantages that a smaller midsize truck provide.
     
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  2. May 25, 2023 at 7:35 AM
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    haha! I was installing those Bumper caps then. I put it away in the tool box. Good eye!
     
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  3. May 25, 2023 at 7:58 AM
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    I swapped out the chrome butt-cheeks on mine, too. Matte black to match the fender flares. While the plastic rivets were easy, there were two clips there was just no way I was going to get back on unless I removed the whole bumper. Eff that... So those clips didn't go back on. Haven't lost a bumper cap yet...
     
  4. May 25, 2023 at 8:01 AM
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    That double cab tundra is the ugliest cab configurations of any brand, worse than the mega cab. Goofy looking rear door and miserable seat
     
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  5. May 25, 2023 at 8:35 AM
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    I'll pass buddy. I'll take a ACSB if you have one.

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    on second thought, I want a SCSSB (Single Cab Short Short Bed)

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    No...actually changed my mind. NCNB (No Cab No Bed) please.

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    This is Murica baby...Get your whines on.
     
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  6. May 25, 2023 at 11:09 AM
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    Which ride? There’s too many to list.
    LMAOO!
     
  7. May 25, 2023 at 5:01 PM
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    that's a tasty part out :anonymous:
     
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  8. May 25, 2023 at 11:21 PM
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  9. May 26, 2023 at 7:35 AM
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    The engineers are seen in multiple launch event videos saying no doors was for cab rigidity. You can read between the lines pretty easily on that. Toyota isn't just going to take away features for the funsies. I don't know why that is such a stretch for you to believe that. Go on thinking it was a conspiracy on Toyota's part to make customers angry, I guess.
     
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  11. May 26, 2023 at 7:43 AM
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    Everything is money related. Obviously there are ways to make an access cab safe enough to pass crash tests. They must simply feel the cost (manufacturing, engineering, etc.) compared to sales demand warrants giving up on this. If they determine later the opposite is true we will see them again down the road.
     
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  12. May 26, 2023 at 8:10 AM
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    Another thing to consider is Toyota knows everyone is dropping the regular cab. The fact they kept some two-door variant is pretty impressive. They could have just followed the trend and eliminated it altogether.
     
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  13. May 26, 2023 at 8:55 AM
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    Removing a B pillar from an all-new shared platform while meeting future crash standards would be a very challenging (read: expensive) feat for Toyota. Much more so than swapping in a manual transmission, for example. You can bet that if the ROI was in the cards, they would do it. Credit them a little for at least offering a two door option at all, while GM & Ford said go pound sand.

    If you want a backward swinger complete w a V6 under the hood, better find a ‘23 this summer. The dealer might cut you a deal, and you’d be getting a pretty damn good truck.
     
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    I was just recently trying to swap out the chrome caps on mine...until I saw I needed to take the whole dang bumper apart to get the caps off all the way :confused:. Gave up and said "it's fine as-is":rofl:


    So, for you...you're saying you pulled off the caps without taking the whole bumper apart? Did you have to break those two clips?

    Sorry for the side-bar, everyone:anonymous:
     
  15. May 26, 2023 at 9:44 AM
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    Truck people.
     
  16. May 27, 2023 at 10:29 AM
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    To be fair, Toyota “officially” says the TRD air intake increases horsepower too.

    In December, IIHS announced they were now putting a dummy (meant to represent a small woman or 12-year old) in the left rear seat for the moderate offset frontal crash.
    There simply isn’t enough room in an AC back to protect that passenger while at the same time keeping the driver away from the steering wheel.

    I agree that the vast majority of we AC owners will never have a human in the back; the new Xtracab makes that certain.

    Toyota can talk about “utility” and not be wrong, but ditching the rear seats has a lot to do with meeting safety requirements.
     
  17. May 27, 2023 at 2:19 PM
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    The Access Cab Utility Package, which Toyota says make up 50% of the AC models they sell, has no rear seats. If the scenario you speculate was the reason AC was discontinued they could have simply eliminated rear seats for all AC models.
    Like I said it’s fun to speculate but I’ll go with the a credible source like Toyota in post #95 over someone’s post of what they think.
    Since no one has been able to give me a source on whether safety was indeed a consideration, I’ll give you one.
    https://www.motortrend.com/news/2024-toyota-tacoma-xtracab-access-cab-doors/amp/
    I have no idea if any of this was the article authors speculation or if he actually has a Toyota source. The new model could have been designed with access doors with improvements if safety was a factor, or been provided only on the Utility Package version. In any case it is what it is - cheaper to build and more profit margin without the doors.
     
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    In the tagline for the article you linked, the first word is literally “Safety.”
     
  19. May 27, 2023 at 5:35 PM
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    You’re welcome. Maybe you can sleep better tonight since I did your homework lol.
    My take on it is as I put in my post. I value facts and reliable sources over speculation, and try to research best I can. The article author gives no sources so at this point I have no ability to draw any conclusions from it. Post 95 has a credible source and maybe we find out more as time goes on.
     
  20. May 27, 2023 at 6:29 PM
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