Traction Issues

auto lsd should stop the spinning. maybe the tires are shitty.

 

They were definitely priced that way. Reviews were good though. If I can't get it sorted, they'll be replaced 100%. That's what I get for cheaping out.

I did try auto LSD. Maybe there is an issue with it? It didn't seem to help at all. turned it on at the stop sign. The wheel didn't stop spinning or I didn't let it spin long enough.

 

I'm normally the type that preaches against using 4X4 on pavement. 4X4 should only be used where traction is poor. But if you're spinning wheels on pavement, then the traction is poor enough to warrant using 4X4 without breaking anything. Not all the time mind you, but just long enough to get moving.

Tire manufacturers use various rubber compounds in their tires. Those with very soft rubber grip the road great, but wear out quickly. You see these on a lot of sports cars. Other tires are made with a harder rubber that will last longer, especially if driven a lot on rough or gravel roads. Those tires do a poor job of gripping pavement. Especially on a very light vehicle. Put them on a 7000-10,000 lb 3/4-ton truck and they do better.

I've had tires in the past that were so hard they were dangerous to drive on wet pavement even when new. I took a set off a truck several years ago with under 10,000 miles on the tires. They were dangerous to drive. But in my past experience Coopers are usually a pretty good tire in this regard.

 

The Goodyear assurance tires that came on my 13’ Tacoma have pretty much hardened up. They have 6/32” but are over 3 years old. They will spin easily on damp pavement and my truck is access cab. Will be replacing soon cause they will suck in the snow

 

you will get a little wheel spin before the autolsd kicks in. works great on dirt/gravel uphills. i bet those tires have a really hard compound. a lot of cheap tires use harder compound which doesn't help the traction issue

 

OP....Did you have the slipping problem before the new tires???

What are the UTOG rating for traction on the new tires? B or C? If so, then abandon those tires. Look for the UTOG traction rating of A or AA.


What is the date code on the new tires???

 

I dont know why people love AT tires.... they are literally the epitome of jack of all trades and master of none.

OP, how many miles do you have on those Coopers ATs? I had a set of cooper AT3's on my truck and traction in situations like you stated DROPPED LIKE A ROCK around the 12-15k mile mark of wear on the tire.

 

About 500 miles on the new tires. Maybe less. I'll try bringing psi down to 29. If that doesn't help (along with using 4wd)then I'll have to replace. I'm okay with a tire more on the street side, just want the flexibility if I need to go offroad. The highway tires that were on it were almost new. Just hated the look of them.

Slipping happened with the new tires, not the old.

Thanks!

 

Yup, and Ill bet you find that it will never be as good as a dedicated "highway" tire.

I strayed from the Michelin Defender MS2 (now called Defender LTX M/S) and ran a few different AT tires "for the look" and NOTHING ever came close to the grip the Defender LTX M/S offers in the dry, wet, light snow, icy roads. And everything I have done off road the Defender LTX has handled no problems.

And it makes sense, a walmart Cooper A/T is a UTQG is ~ 560AB, Defender LTX M/S is an 800AA

 

Thanks appreciate that. Might have to look there if things don't pan out. It's weird that most of the a/t tires are AB rated. Not many a or aa.