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Transmission dying at 38,000

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by dwd1985, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. Mar 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM
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    Anyone ever heard of or experienced a dead transmission at only 38,000 miles? I have been experiencing a "jerk" after coming to a rapid stop, and then accelerating. I realized it was a failure of the transmission to properly downshift, and then when accelerating again, the engine was revving in too high a gear, and then the transmission would downshift, causing a rapid, violent jerk forward.

    Took it into Toyota today and they said the transmission is dying. I dont plan to replace it yet, as everything else shifts fine, it drives great, it just experiences this jerk after a rapid stop and then increase in gas (like a "rolling" stop at a stop sign). So as long as I drive responsibly, I wouldnt even notice it.

    Im still pissed off though. I have 38,000 miles on an '06, and the transmission is dying already.
     
  2. Mar 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM
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    That's why I will not buy another automatic ever for personal vehicle. Sorry for your troubles. Do you drive your truck hard? Maintenance done? Could factory defect, maybe. How ever something doesn't sound right.
     
  3. Mar 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM
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    damn sorry to hear that manual is where is it at but no I have never heard of a transmission dying that soon
     
  4. Mar 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM
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    Do you have the extended warranty? If not, I'd be on the phone with Toyota Customer Service!
     
  5. Mar 12, 2012 at 12:58 PM
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    this and that

    Service manuals are for suckers. My service manager thought I was crazy getting mine done at 30k and tried to talk me out of it. This spring Ill have it done again at a little over 75k.
     
  6. Mar 12, 2012 at 1:02 PM
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    If the transmission is already dying, changing the fluid could be the worst possible advice you could give him. Putting fresh fluid in a worn auto could cause it to not work at all.

    FWIW, I've never thought about changing the transmission fluid for any vehicle under 50k miles unless it's a dedicated tow rig or heavy hauler (or just beat on in general). The fluid shouldn't break down that quickly. Either this OP's transmission was abused or something was wrong with it from the get go. 38k miles on original fluid shouldn't be the sole cause of a dead tranny in my opinion.
     
  7. Mar 12, 2012 at 1:05 PM
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    I did change the tranny fluid already a few hundred miles ago. I also am not hard on the truck, honestly most of the miles are highway. I got it with about 11000 miles on it in Jan 2010. Since then I mainly used it for a daily 60 mile commute (30 miles both ways) to work, all on the highway. It sat for most of 7 months while I was in Afghanistan this last year, but I had a friend periodically (once every few weeks) go out and take it around the block a few times to keep things working. It worked great when I got back in September, it only started this jerk thing about 2 months ago.
     
  8. Mar 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM
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    I doubt his tranny is actually dieing...after all "Toyota" told him it was & we all know they have their heads up their arses. It too me 3 visits to get my TSB springs done correctly :facepalm:

    I have 75k worth of hard miles and I know many local guys who beat there trucks and are over 100k. That said anything is possible.

    I didn't get a chance to check my trans fluid out but when I did my diffs at 30k both needed it bad so if that's any correlation to the trans fluid 36k on 6 yo fluid could be the issue. After all you can either spend $100 on new fluid or 3k on a new trans. Ill go with option A.

    Edit: Just read OP's last post....
     
  9. Mar 12, 2012 at 1:08 PM
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    Not so sure what you mean...I dont have the extended warranty (im not he original owner) but I dont think Toyota Customer Service is going to fix it for me because of that...
     
  10. Mar 12, 2012 at 1:10 PM
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    Have you checked the fluid level in the transmission since they changed the fluid a few hundred miles ago?
     
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    How do you only have 38000 on your 06?
     
  13. Mar 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM
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    Actually I had the fluid changed after I first noticed the jerking. The jerking persisted after the change, no difference in it at all. Fluid level is still ok, I just checked it the other day. When they changed the fluid they said it looked good too.
     
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    Extended warranty means you'd be covered so even if it did puke, it'd be on their dime. If you're going to eat the cost anyways, I'd at least try to get Toyota to cover it. Toyota does not list the transmission fluid change in their recommended maintenance and you're not that far out of your powertrain warranty. So while I do agree that changing fluid more frequently is better, Toyota can't throw that in your face because you followed their recommended maintenance schedule and the transmission still puked at 38k miles.

    All that being said, check the fluid level in the transmission yourself. Having the wrong fluid level can cause the transmission to act up.

    Edit: Never mind that last bit, you responded while I was typing.
     
  15. Mar 12, 2012 at 1:18 PM
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    Yeah, I suppose there are cases like this guy where time should dictate over mileage.

    Believe me, you don't have to convince me that changing your fluid is cheap insurance, I whole heartedly agree. I just have a hard time believing that failing to change the fluid could cause it to crap out in 38k miles if it was in fact driven easily.
     
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    FWIW ... I change my transmission fluid every 25k or 30k and I am "cupcake easy" on my truck.

    It sounds like the transmission (abuse) problems maybe have started before OP even got the vehicle. As you guys know, 38k miles is nothing on these transmissions.
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    dwd1985,

    Consider taking your truck to a reputable independent transmission shop for a second opinion.
     
  18. Mar 12, 2012 at 2:39 PM
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  19. Mar 12, 2012 at 2:56 PM
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    Yeah thats the plan for tomorrow...and if they also say new transmission, that trip will be followed by a very loud phone conversation with someone at Toyota.
     
  20. Mar 12, 2012 at 4:24 PM
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    Under special operating conditions in my 2007 maintenance guide it reads 60,000 miles or 72 months (6 years) which ever comes first. If i were to go by the maintenance guide my dealership hands out they recommend replaceing the auto tranny fluid every 30,000 miles (same mileage the Chilton's manual says.) Since I can't go by mileage (truck only has 18,300 miles) i have to go by the years. I plan on getting it replaced next month and every 5 years afterwards.

    OP...who changed your fluid?
     
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