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Transmission Fluid Temperature PIDs for Torque Pro and NOW APPLE!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by tow-coma, Oct 4, 2017.

  1. Oct 4, 2017 at 9:59 AM
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    tow-coma

    tow-coma [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Here are the PIDs and other values you need to enter into Torque Pro on an Android device to monitor your transmission fluid temperatures on a 2016+ Tacoma.

    2016+ Tacoma, V6, Automatic transmission. I have not verified this on 4 cylinder models. It might work. Would anyone like to check?

    Torque Pro App instructions:
    1. From home screen, press the gear in lower left. Choose Settings.
    2. Choose Manage extra PIDs/Sensors
    3. Press three dots uppper right, this is the menu. Choose Add custom PID.
    4. Enter the following information. The bold items must be entered as shown. Unbolded items can be changed or left alone.

    OBD2 Mode and PID: 221627
    Long Name: Transmission Fluid Pan Temperature
    Short Name: TF1 (pan)
    Minimum Value: -40
    Maximum Value: 350

    Scale Factor: x1 (do not change)
    Unit Type: F
    Equation: (A*459/255)+(B*1.6/255)-40
    OBD Header: 701

    Diagnostic start command: (leave blank)
    Diagnostic stop command: (leave blank)
    Overrides PID: Does not override any PID

    OBD2 Mode and PID: 221628
    Long Name: Transmission Fluid Post-Converter Temperature
    Short Name: TF2 (conv)
    Minimum Value: -40
    Maximum Value: 350

    Scale Factor: x1 (do not change)
    Unit Type: F
    Equation: (A*459/255)+(B*1.6/255)-40
    OBD Header: 701

    Diagnostic start command: (leave blank)
    Diagnostic stop command: (leave blank)
    Overrides PID: Does not override any PID

    "I have made fire!"
    Tom Hanks, Castaway
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    If you don't know what Torque is or how to connect to your Android device, you will need a Bluetooth OBD2 dongle and Torque Pro App.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005...=bafx+obd2&dpPl=1&dpID=416SaTHOpkL&ref=plSrch

    ***
    Now with Apple Support! You will need a different OBD2 dongle because the Apple devices don't allow bluetooth connection to dongles like these. @Hank Heel has shown that OBD Fusion App from the Apple iTunes store allows the creation of custom PIDs. *I cannot say what values these entries default to, so I can not bold the ones which need to be changed*

    Information
    Name: Transmission Fluid Pan Temperature
    Description: TF1 (pan)
    Category: Engine
    Manufacturer: Generic
    Units
    Metric Units __
    English Units: F
    Min Value: -40
    Max Value: 350
    Metric to English Scale Factor: 1
    Metric to English offset: 0
    Unit Type: F
    OBD Information
    Module/Header: 701
    OBD Mode: 22(*)
    PID Number: 1627(*)
    Priority: High
    Equation: (A*459/255)+(B*1.6/255)-40

    Information
    Name: Transmission Fluid Post-Converter Temperature
    Description: TF2 (conv)
    Category: Engine
    Manufacturer: Generic
    Units
    Metric Units __
    English Units: F
    Min Value: -40
    Max Value: 350
    Metric to English Scale Factor: 1
    Metric to English offset: 0
    Unit Type: F
    OBD Information
    Module/Header: 701
    OBD Mode: 22(*)
    PID Number: 1628(*)
    Priority: High
    Equation: (A*459/255)+(B*1.6/255)-40

    * these values are currently being tested by Apple users

    Please let me know if you get this working on any other iTunes app
     
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  2. Oct 4, 2017 at 10:31 AM
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    Here is an example while towing up the steepest part of the hill in second gear. But I have installed a large after market cooler so that helps keep the temps down. If you tow with the normal tow package cooler, you need to monitor your trans temps

    IMG_1506487795264.jpg

    20170909_141839.jpg
     
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  3. Oct 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM
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    wow, this is very useful. Do you use pan or post converter temp reading to check automatic transmission fluid level?
     
  4. Oct 4, 2017 at 11:16 AM
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    The fluid flows into the coolers when the converter temp goes above 195F... but I just pinned the thermostat open and checked the fluid after letting it pump through after 5 minutes to get air bubbles out. I also tried to fill the cooler and new lines with fluid before checking. It took very little. I filled it twice and let it run out. I plugged before it stopped coming out the second time.
     
  5. Oct 4, 2017 at 11:20 AM
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    I’ve been waiting on these, awesome
    Thanks
     
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  6. Oct 4, 2017 at 11:31 AM
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    Same here. Thank you!
     
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  7. Oct 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM
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    Should Ask mod to add these into the 3rd get maintenance diy thread, deductive reasoning dictates that diy folk would appreciate this
     
  8. Oct 7, 2017 at 10:23 PM
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    Thanks OP! This is great!
     
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    In the first line where it asks for - OBD2 Mode and PID (in hex - eg: '01 .......

    do we enter PID:221627 or leave blank ?

    Maybe state ' OBD2 Mode and PID if needed ' before value like in other statements ?

    Thanks for this.
     
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    I entered 221627
    Appears to work :)
     
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  11. Oct 8, 2017 at 10:29 PM
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    221627

    I will edit the instructions. I just assumed everyone knew that was the first line
     
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  12. Oct 9, 2017 at 10:22 PM
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    Do you have to get that exact obd reader? I have a carista one that I don't use but would like to. :)
     
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    Try hooking it up to Torque. It's Bluetooth, right?
     
  14. Oct 9, 2017 at 10:43 PM
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    Yeah it's Bluetooth I just don't want to spend 10 bucks to test it. Haha
     
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    Download Torque Lite and see if it'll hook up.

    Or are you asking if Carista will do this? I don't know Carista
     
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  16. Oct 9, 2017 at 10:57 PM
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    Not using carista. I just have the Bluetooth piece made by them.

    I didn't see the lite version when I searched. I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
     
  17. Oct 10, 2017 at 12:26 PM
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    maybe it's just called Torque now. Try the free version and the get the Pro version if it works. You need Pro to add the custom PIDs for transmission temps
     
  18. Oct 11, 2017 at 9:25 PM
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    Some notes.

    *Don't start the truck with Torque connected to the OBD2 dongle. It sometimes throws an ABS warning. It isn't a check engine light, just a warning. Unplugging and restarting the truck clears the warning

    **You cannot put the PID in the long form name. It doesn't like that and it won't work

    ***One tester had issues using the OBD2 dongle due to his speedometer calibration unit

    **** This might work with Engine Link on Apple devices
     
  19. Oct 18, 2017 at 4:19 PM
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    Good job on this post OP. :thumbsup: Works great.
    Looking for a great android device to mount permanently in the truck.
    Question is what type and where.
    Anybody have any good suggestions or links/threads ?
     
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  20. Oct 19, 2017 at 2:14 PM
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    I have a Samsung A8 tablet. I also use it for off road mapping. I am interested in semi-permanent mounting.
     

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