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TRD beadlock wheels are still in production, new part number

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by RobTacoma22, Dec 5, 2022.

  1. Dec 9, 2022 at 3:58 PM
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    That actually may make a difference for me too honestly. I might go OEM
     
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    I have a single black and 5 graphite. Each colour is the same inside and outside.
    My friend had bronze which was painted inside and outside as well
     
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  3. Dec 9, 2022 at 5:36 PM
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    I had originally thought it was removable and was also eyeing these wheels. Only recently someone said that the ring isn't removable and I think that makes it a deal breaker for me. If that's the case then I might as well just get some TE37 or something else. The fact that the TRD wheels are OEM (i.e. held to some sort of production standard) and the rings are replaceable were my main reasons for getting these wheels in the first place. Now it's gonna be hard to go with something else - unless maybe it's something vintage.
     
  4. Dec 9, 2022 at 8:38 PM
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    For sure! Im still debating the non beadlock version of the FN overlanders
     
  5. Dec 11, 2022 at 1:08 PM
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    Does anyone know if the fake beadlock rings are included?
     
  6. Dec 11, 2022 at 1:14 PM
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    They appear to be. It's just the center caps that are missing.
     
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  7. Dec 12, 2022 at 10:10 AM
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    Looks like black at least is already back ordered. If anyone in this thread managed to snag a set post them up when/if you get them. I'm curious if these were ever really available or not.

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  8. Dec 12, 2022 at 10:21 AM
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    I'm not exactly sure how it works but different dealers seem to have varying levels of access to parts. I've had one dealer tell me they couldn't get something and others look it up and it's available. When these originally came back online someone posted that there was only "200-400" in stock. I have absolutely no idea how accurate that is or if that was total or per color. From their wording it sounded like they may work with Toyota and have visibility to inventories thru their system.

    These are definitely a real thing. Check out the two links I posted previously, those are brand new wheels not NOS.

    You may have missed your opportunity but I'd still recommend calling a local dealer or shopping around. BAM doesn't necessarily have the best price, there are tons of dealers selling online and they tend to run all sorts of different promotions.
     
  9. Dec 12, 2022 at 11:27 AM
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    I'm gonna wait it out anyway. Some dealers are selling these for 400 a pop. Kinda nuts. If they come in under 300 I might jump on it
     
  10. Dec 12, 2022 at 11:49 AM
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    MSRP is $395 now, which is around $100 more than the old price.

    My local dealership is currently selling them for $321.75 which is 19% off. But that's only if you order online. If you go in to the parts counter they'll charge $400+ as this dealer typically marks up over MSRP.

    In my experience usually the most you'll see these discounted is about 20%. There are some deeper discounting places (like BAM) but they'll be a bit fewer and further between. AND, I think those places are more likely to rely solely on major Toyota warehouses rather than their own stock. Smaller, local dealers may more easily be able to acquire parts when supply is low.
     
  11. Dec 12, 2022 at 12:13 PM
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    I would suggest starting here https://parts.toyota.com/ and finding a dealer out of state. You can usually get free shipping and no sales tax if you order from an out of state dealer.

    I found Norm Reeves Toyota in San Diego as the best price. No tax, free ship.

     
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  12. Dec 14, 2022 at 12:34 AM
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    For a 2nd gen wheel it looks pretty darn good on third gens.

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    This looks too good. Are the wheels from the new batch that became available recently?
     
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  15. Dec 15, 2022 at 5:44 PM
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    Hi @hx989 , @TwinTaco31719 and @clenkeit ,

    Thank you guys for your interest in our wheels. First let me say that the OEM 16" FJ SE / Tacoma Baja wheels were really sweet wheels, and I have no reason to believe that the new version won't be just as good. I don't want to hijack this thread, but I do want to clear up some of the questions surrounding our wheels and respond to the comments.

    In late 2016 we released a new 17" diameter wheel called the FN Wheels Overlander in two versions - the Overlander Spec A and Spec B. The impetus for the Overlander came from repeated requests from our customers for a 17" version of the OEM TRD simulated beadlock wheels, since the OEM wheels were only available in a 16" diameter. Our late model 4Runner and Lexus GX customers needed a 17" wheel to clear their brakes, and our Tacoma, FJ Cruiser and earlier 4Runner/Tundra customers wanted a 17" diameter to open up access to more tire options (in 2016 there were fewer 16" tire choices, and as of today in late 2022 going into 2023 there are even fewer tire choices in 16").

    We intentionally developed the Overlander Spec B with a non-removable, simulated beadlock after gathering feedback and information from our customers (some of whom include Toyota dealerships). Here's what we found out:

    • We learned that owners of the 16" Tacoma Baja / FJ SE wheels had issues with debris becoming stuck between the wheel and the removable simulated bead lock ring of the OEM Toyota wheels.
      • Toyota dealership customers in particular told me of instances of customers coming in for vibrations in the steering wheel only to find out that the wheels were out of balance because of something becoming lodged between the ring and the wheel.
    • We also learned about customers who owned the OEM Toyota wheels who had problems with water pooling behind the simulated bead lock and not draining properly. This was of particular concern for customers who drive in areas where salt is prevalent, since this caused issues with corrosion of the finish.
    • Some Toyota owners don't care for the look of the simulated beadlock, and they remove their rings. This presents the question of what should be done with the exposed, threaded holes where the simulated beadlock screws would normally go. You can plug the holes with the screws that would have normally been used to affix the simulated beadlock ring, but then most people who don't like the look of the ring also don't like the look of a bunch of unnecessary screws. You can leave the holes exposed, but then the threads can get clogged and damaged, and the aesthetic of exposed holes can also look unfinished.
    • Another concern was cost. Yes, the simulated beadlock rings can be replaced on the OEM wheels, but the rings aren't cheap.
      • What's the cost? Currently that is an unknown for the re-released version of the 16" OEM Toyota wheels, because Toyota isn't selling the rings (or center caps) separately right now. 7-10 years ago the OEM replacement rings were being sold for around $70 per ring, but that price seems unlikely today (costs have risen significantly over the last 2-3 years). My educated guess is that the new replacement rings will be around $100. So, if a ring were to get damaged how often will someone replace the ring as opposed to just leaving it be? It's definitely nice to be able to just swap out the ring, but for every 2-3 rings you replace you could have just purchased a whole new wheel assembly. If you damage the ring significantly enough you will probably also bend or damage the wheel, in which case you'll be replacing the whole wheel assembly anyway.

    We took into consideration a few things on our own as well - the OEM simulated beadlock ring uses TORX screws to hold it onto the wheel. It's pretty easy to round off, strip, cross thread or overtighten the screws if the final installer or end user isn't careful. The screws can also become seized due to galvanic corrosion (the OEM screws are stainless steel and the wheels are aluminum alloy). If any of these things were to happen the otherwise removable OEM simulated beadlock rings would essentially become non-removable.

    Once we reviewed all of the data and feedback, we decided the solution was to develop two different versions of the wheel - a fully finished version (i.e. no screw holes) and call it the Overlander Spec A, and then also offer a version with a fixed (non-removable) simulated beadlock, which we call the Overlander Spec B.

    When we revived production this year due to renewed customer demand, we also added a new feature as well. The Overlanders now have knurled beadseats. The purpose of a knurled beadseat is to create more traction between the tire's bead and the wheel's bead seat. The knurled beadseat offers improved bead retention at low PSI and/or under sudden acceleration, which helps to prevent or reduce the wheel spinning independently of the tire. This is feature is not something that is present in the 16" OEM Toyota simulated beadlock wheels (to my knowledge as of this writing).

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    Lastly, our price point is very competitive for a high quality 17" wheel. Compared to the price of the re-released 16x7.5" Toyota Baja/FJ SE wheels, our 17x8.5" Overlander wheels cost approximately $70 - $100 less (per wheel), despite the fact that the Overlander is 1" larger in both diameter and width.

    Our wheels are manufactured to the SAE J2530 standard. SAE J2530 exceeds OEM standards, DOT standards and JWL-T (Japanese governmental standard).

    One of our great customers was a well known member on this forum a few years back named @alex.busta. His posts are still up on this forum, and you can watch a lot of his videos on Youtube :



    At one point Alex told me that he had broken three Toyota OEM axles but had not yet bent one of his Overlander wheels.

    Firestone tires also featured our Overlander wheels on their demo Lexus GX460 which was driven hard all across the United States a few years back :

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    These are just a few examples that I wanted to provide in order to help everyone understand that we definitely manufacture our wheels to very high standards.

    The OEM 16" wheels are great wheels, so much so that we don't plan to make a 16" Overlander. Our Overlander wheels are primarily intended to bridge the gap for Toyota owners who want or need 17" diameter wheels of a similar style.

    I'll try not to take over this thread about the OEM 16" wheels, but if anyone has any questions please shoot me an email at FNWheels@gmail.com or call us at (951)735-1100, (855)WHEEL-00, or call/text my cell at (714)390-9387. I plan to be more active on this forum again (time permitting), and I'll be posting more about the Overlanders in the ongoing thread here: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fn-overlander-wheels-spec-a-and-b-show-em-if-you-got-em.459586/


    Thanks TacomaWorld,

    Dustin
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    Quick side note regarding your comment about Volk TE37 wheels.

    I used to be a dealer for RAYS wheels, and I sold the Volk TE37 wheels. In fact I was selling them for Toyota trucks as early as 2005 (a little more than 17 years ago). The problem that we ran into with Volk truck wheels for Toyotas is that Rays doesn't make the wheels hub centric and the the lug seats aren't drilled deep enough to get enough stud engagement on short Toyota studs. A lot of our customers who purchased TE37 wheels would feel vibrations through the steering wheel because of this. We would then have hub centric rings custom manufactured, since Rays makes their wheels with a non-standard center bore diameter (112mm). Also, as you probably know, center caps aren't included with Rays wheels, and their caps are very expensive.

    They might offer models now which have resolved these problems, but these are things to consider when purchasing TE37s.
     
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    FWIW I got the last or if not the last one of the last replacement rings back in December 2021 and paid $90 plus S&H. With the increase in wheel cost I have to believe that the rings will be pricier as well.

    The screws come with blue Loctite pre-done, so hopefully they stave off corrosion.

    I really like the Overlanders, though. If I win the lottery I’ll buy a set for winter! I just can’t explain why I am buying a 5th set of wheels for my truck.
     
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  18. Dec 15, 2022 at 6:57 PM
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    Some black abs plastic rings could be great. One day. A guy can dream.
     
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  19. Dec 15, 2022 at 7:52 PM
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    Looking at your website, are the available anymore?
     
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    What about big brake kits like stop tech? Will these wheels clear those?
     

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