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TRD/ Magnuson 4.0 Supercharger Tips, Tricks, and Mods

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by 12TRDTacoma, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Jun 4, 2020 at 7:21 PM
    Lucario Runner

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  3. Jun 4, 2020 at 7:25 PM
    Lucario Runner

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    What can I say race truck problems. Maybe my daily will get a set too.
     
  4. Jun 4, 2020 at 7:28 PM
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    Shit bolted onto other shit, and junk.
    Are the FICs calibrated in the tune per their sheet that came with?
     
  5. Jun 4, 2020 at 7:32 PM
    12TRDTacoma

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    It should. That information has to be available to global OBD2 systems no matter what because it helps the PCM determine fueling strategy immediately and over time.

    No, otherwise he would have a notable misfire, especially at that fuel economy.

    It's not the pump which is causing a rich issue. You have something else going on here. A pump will cause a lean issue, not a rich, unless you have a bad internal fuel pressure regulator inside of the fuel pump bucket, but there is no way that thing can really get damaged.

    Not necessarily.

    The reality here is that the fact that you are now supercharged you will lose a little bit of fuel economy unless you can keep your foot out of it to maintain vacuum. Pumping losses are the enemy, but overfueling required to keep everything cool does not help either. Because you need to wash the cylinder down in order to keep the combustion chamber from grenading.

    It is possible you have a fuel pressure regulator issue at the rail leaking fuel into the vacuum line which is allowing additional fuel to get sucked through, but to cause that much of a loss in fuel economy you would have to be leaking badly.

    We need your STFT and LTFT days to make a more accurate recommendation on what is occurring but one thing is for sure assuming aerodynamics are not the issue, you are running too rich and it needs to be addressed.
     
  6. Jun 4, 2020 at 7:37 PM
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    just an idea of help
     
  7. Jun 4, 2020 at 7:40 PM
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    Here's a screenshot of of his fuel trims during a normal drive log (you can guestimate the averages):

    fueltrim.jpg
     
  8. Jun 4, 2020 at 7:43 PM
    12TRDTacoma

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    If he had bad misfires he would see wet spark plugs which still smell of fuel. He hasn't indicated that, but the fact he has had a 30% in just putting the blower on tells me a fueling issue either on the software side or a hardware side is in play because that's too much of a loss.
     
  9. Jun 4, 2020 at 7:48 PM
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  10. Jun 4, 2020 at 8:18 PM
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    @nudavinci64 fouled O2 sensors? Not sure if you mentioned their history....

    Given that we live in the same vicinity with mods in the same ballpark... i get ~11mpg when i lead foot a tank of gas. ~13mpgs in mixed city/highway... and I think I averaged 14.5 on a trip to Yosemite back in late Feb. I have no real armor nor bed hardware.

    I've never gotten single digits for fuel economy avg. I'm frugal and opt for Costco premium unleaded. And the occasional Chevron when my Safeway points gives me a discount.

    ...just for comparison
     
  11. Jun 4, 2020 at 8:50 PM
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    Yep, he's definitely running rich at certain points. I'm going to need to see a video @nudavinci64 of them in action. Particularly at idle and at 2500 RPM.

    How many miles do you have on it?
     
  12. Jun 4, 2020 at 9:06 PM
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    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    @nudavinci64 it may be best to just sell the truck and buy a new ranger.
     
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    Time to total it.
     
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    Boosted Money Pit....
    Your right probably better to get a ridgeline.

    Truck has 68k so it’s still a baby in Tacoma terms. Was bone stock until 42k five or take. Original owner for anyone wondering the age etc.
     
  15. Jun 4, 2020 at 10:09 PM
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    nudavinci64 Robert @ Holy Horsepower

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    Happy to grab anything if it helps.

    @JustDSM I’ll have the AFR soon so hopefully That helps.
     
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    Kelvin

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    There’s some pretty good deals on new Tundras right now
     
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    As usual something has gone defective early. These late gen 2nd gens suck.
     
  18. Jun 4, 2020 at 11:21 PM
    nudavinci64

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    yah I guess well. see. seems hard to pinpoint. still crazy to me that installing the extra goodies made it that much worse.
     
  19. Jun 5, 2020 at 12:41 AM
    12TRDTacoma

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    I think it may had been an impending issue that pushed you over the edge.
     
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