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TRD/ Magnuson 4.0 Supercharger Tips, Tricks, and Mods

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by 12TRDTacoma, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Dec 7, 2021 at 9:26 PM
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    Well, actually it was @Murphinator that started it up for me. Him and I maintain it and run it now, but he carried over all the information from this thread to there.

    Just get a hose that fits tighter on the nipples and you are good to go.
     
  2. Dec 7, 2021 at 9:28 PM
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    Ok thanks!
     
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  3. Dec 8, 2021 at 11:31 AM
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    So this is my first time with a supercharger so I'm not familiar with the noises. 4.0 TRD SC.

    At idle I can hear a sort of whistle, kinda sounds like the belt or something spinning, maybe a bearing on a pulley or some? not like the whine when it's boosting.

    When shutting down it also seems to do a noise like maybe something is knocking?

    Changed the SC oil and it looked pretty good.

    SC has @10k miles.
    Truck has 60k miles.
    <1k miles with the supercharger installed.

    Are these noises typical? Or do I need to start digging deeper to see if I can find something going on?

    Please excuse my ignorance
     
  4. Dec 8, 2021 at 11:46 AM
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    Very typical. All part of owning a blower. Welcome to the boost club. It's a noisy one to be in. Literally. Lol.
     
  5. Dec 8, 2021 at 12:31 PM
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    Haha man it sounds cool but it's one of those things I'm not sure if it's cool or if it's about to blow up

    Thanks for the response man.
     
  6. Dec 8, 2021 at 12:35 PM
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    While I'm asking questions, might as well see if you guys might know what this switch could be for?

    I bought my truck in 13 with 10k mi on it. This switch has never did anything but I never investigated. Wanted to add a switch for my gauges and decided to look around and realized this thing has a harness going over the the passenger side not doing anything.

    It looks similar to the unichip 2 way map selector, but there's nothing else that would make me believe this thing had a tuner before I bought it. ECU and everything seemed untouched.

    Anyone seen something like this or have something like this??

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  7. Dec 8, 2021 at 2:32 PM
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    Agreed it looks like a Unichip map selector. You may be able to reuse the switch but probably just as easy to measure and find similar one that fits in there. Should be cheap enough to replace it.
     
  8. Dec 9, 2021 at 2:30 PM
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    I know everyone’s set up and locations are different but I was wondering what ignition timing are your trucks at? I forgot what mine is on the top of my head, I think was at 12 degrees i believe :confused: or something and but I thought it was pretty low.
     
  9. Dec 9, 2021 at 2:50 PM
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    12deg would be quite low. Sounds like you've got some knock.

    What advance you run is largely going to depend on the load/RPM at which you're running. See below for stock TRD S/C ignition mapping.

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  10. Dec 9, 2021 at 4:47 PM
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    I have to confirm what it was lol but yea I think it was a really low number at WOT I did mess with my maf calibration, and I was told it would pull back timing too. When I did tune my truck years ago I didn’t pay attention what the timing was to compare :facepalm:
     
  11. Dec 9, 2021 at 6:17 PM
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    If you pulled back the MAF voltage to trick the ECU into leaning the mixture out, you'd have more timing than stock as that will artificially lower the calculated load %. That is probably why you're knocking.

    One reason I am not a fan of signal manipulation for tuning when access to the actual tables is available.
     
  12. Dec 9, 2021 at 7:08 PM
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    So it’s not as aggressive but it’s “safer” I guess.. which I don’t mind if this is the case, I don’t think I’m knocking. My maf voltage is a bit high due to a bigger diameter intake tube which works out I think lol
     
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    There's only a few select reasons the truck would run less timing than what's in that map, and the #1 reason is knock. Just because it's low doesn't inherently mean it's safe, especially when it's targeting a higher advance than you're running currently. The second thing, is a larger MAF housing would lower the MAF voltage, as you're physically bypassing more airflow around the sensor decreasing the proportion of airflow measured relative to the air charge.

    Just my 2¢
     
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    you are right that you are by passing around the sensor, that is why it’s thinking it’s not sucking much air. So I needed to up the voltage to compensate that. I hope that explains it
     
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    Good luck to you sir.
     
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    I’ll confirm with my degree of timing. It could be 18 lol it’s been a while since I looked. Thanks for the table, that really helps!
     
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    Engine knocking? Reduced timing? and NOS?:anonymous:

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    It’s an Xrunner :notsure: lol I’ve had my truck ran/raced this way for a over 5 years lol no issues so far.
     
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    Engine: -Doug thorely long tube headers -URD dual O2 simulator -Dual 2.5” QTP cut outs -RADS true dual piping -TRD supercharger MP90 -Custom air duct -K&N cold air intake -AFE tb adapter -AFE 76mm throttle body -URD 2.7 supercharger pulley -URD fuel pump/Aeromotive 340 upgrade -URD extension harness -URD maf calibrator w/map sensor -URD 170 thermostat -URD speed unlimiter -Cusco oil catch can -URD fuel rail tap -FPR mod -COUPE oil pan spacer w/baffle -NX wet nitrous kit 50 shot -NX 10 lb bottle -NX purge kit -ZEX rapid fire module -Greddy oil filter relocation adapter -Mishimoto oil cooler -HKS big 3 wire upgrade -Pulley wrap mod Electrical -130amp alternator -Voltage Booster Pro SPARK -Optima yellow top group 27 -1/0 wire upgrade Drivetrain: -B&M short shifter -Detroit tru trac LSD -Competition Clutch stage 4/6 puck clutch kit -Competition Clutch lighten flywheel -URD throw out bearing/sleeve kit -Sprint booster V3 -Remove clutch accumulator Suspension: -Djm front A arms -Djm welded in frame notch -DJM offset bushings -XII Performance front coilovers -XII Performance sway bars Fronts 1 3/8” Rear 1 1/16” -4" Custom Taco drop blocks -QA1 rear shocks -Air Lift air bags -Air compressor -Alignment Cam Gussets -UMI billet front sway bar mounts 1 3/8 Wheels/tires: -HRE wheels 540 step lip Front 20x10 255/35/20 Rear 20x11 305/30/20 Brakes: -Performance Brake Unlimited BBK -4 piston Tundra calipers -360mm ISF drilled brembo rotors -Stop tech stainless steel brake hoses -Brembo brake pads Exterior: -35% ceramic front window tint -Hood spacers 1" -Cut front grill -Cut hood scoop -Strictly Street RACE spec spoiler -Race front and rear tow hooks -Diode Dynamic SS3 yellow pro fogs -Race Louvers Front RSF fender trim Rear FL fender trim Interior: -Lotek dual gauge pillar pods -Ultra gauge Mx 1.3 -TRD shift knob -JunctionProduce pillow cushions (4) -Bellezza leather neck pads (2) -Innovation gauge dual wide band -Innovation boost gauge w/shift light -Air lift dual air pressure gauge -TRD racing pedals -LED lighting Sounds: -Sony XAV-AX8000 -JLaudio (2)13w6v2 subwoofer in isobaric ported box 33hz -JLaudio 1000/1 mono amp -JLaudio Evo C3 6.5 (4)co-axles -JLaudio 300/4 4 ch. amp
    sorry for not clarifying I tuned it using maf cal lol
     
  20. Dec 10, 2021 at 7:33 AM
    Jowett

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    Here's a neat little trick for us cold climate folks. At one point, Toyota installed thermostats on the throttle bodies of various vehicles. These CUT OFF coolant flow at about 181F/83C, thus keeping the throttle body warm enough, but not overly so.

    There are two different versions, and I believe they should be installed on the coolant outlet. This will take a bit of design work, but it shouldn't be horribly difficult.
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