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TRD Pro Fox Front Suspension Installed, Just Updated Today With Fox Rears

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by tzwilliam, Sep 24, 2016.

  1. Oct 7, 2016 at 9:19 PM
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    I was really impressed with the ride when just the fronts were replaced, lean and dive control were better.

    The rear Fox shocks have a stronger charge than the Bilsteins, I didn't take a before or after measurement in the rear so I can't confirm.
     
  2. Oct 7, 2016 at 9:25 PM
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    OK I guess that could add a some lift, though I've never heard of it mentioned. It seems like an easy way for Toyota to lift the rear since they can keep the same springs.
     
  3. Oct 8, 2016 at 2:01 PM
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    The shocks in no way are capable of lifting the vehicle unless they are coilovers by design. The lift would only be achieved by using a thicker spring pack or by utilizing extra leafs.
     
  4. Oct 8, 2016 at 2:29 PM
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    That was my thought, but if they really had high gas pressure, I could see how they could generate some lift. Taken to extreme, you have those nitrogen charged setups that have no springs at all. Without evidence, I can't say it's true one way or another.
     
  5. Oct 8, 2016 at 3:04 PM
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    After installing the TRD Pro Fox shocks, the rear wheel well height centered on the axle is 37.750", keep in mind I have 265/70/17 tires. I am not sure what the factory height was, maybe someone with a stock OR can help out here.
     
  6. Oct 8, 2016 at 6:15 PM
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    The only time something would be a factor is if you had air shocks like some of the Jeep's are retrofitted with. Lift is not generated unless there is something of physical height, be it blocks or additional to thicker leafs set in place there. For trucks with springs like the 4Runner's, taller coil springs. Gas pressure affects the valving and how the shocks behave more than anything else. It is there to simply keep the oil inside the shock bodies from caveating or frothing up when the shock is being worked.
     
  7. Dec 22, 2016 at 9:07 PM
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    This is incorrect. While valving is different, it is a completely different shock design. What you have shown is a remote reservoir shock with a internal flaring piston. It has a single piston for the entire stroke of the shock. The trd pro foxs are a internal bypass design. This allows for the shock to be tuned differently depending on where it is in the stroke, which when tuned well makes a world of a difference. Have you ever seen the smaller tubes coming off a high end (non coilover) shock on a long travel truck? Those are a externally tuneable bypass design. This is the same thing, just fox and Toyota tuned them so they are able to put all those tubes inside the shock body. Basically they can resist bottom out in a much more controlled way, not rebound too quickly deep in the stroke, be very active off the top, etc.
     
  8. Dec 23, 2016 at 1:14 AM
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    Oh shoot. I totally forgot that Fox has internal bypass design integrated into their shocks now on certain models. Well hell if it has it then more power to Toyota for utilizing this design. It makes me wonder what their valving is geared towards.
     
  9. Jan 18, 2017 at 5:49 AM
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    Which is better to go with, the fox shocks off the pro or the fox stage one kit? I'm leaning toward the stage one kit, so I can keep stock height (old dude that wants better shocks, but no increased height for loading my race bike).
     
  10. Jan 18, 2017 at 6:39 AM
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    The pro shocks are a much better shock over the stage 1 because of the internal bypass design, but if you are not pushing them much off-road either one would be an upgrade for you. The pro shocks will do better on high speed movements as the shock itself will resist bottom out and the rebound is more controlled as well as it is different shock "tunes" or shim stacks throughout the different portions of travel in the shock.
     
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    I'm in a similar situation... considering either the Pro shocks setup or a Fox stage (1-4) for my TRD OR. I'm not necessarily trying to lift my truck but a 1-1.5 inch keeping the rake would be OK to help with occasional trips in the mountains with snow. About 95% of my driving is on road. My main goal is to eliminate the dipping and diving on stopping and accelerating as well as more planted on high speed highway turns. I've read many other threads and mostly everyone talks about off-road performance instead of on road driving dynamics. Any advice would be appreciated.
     
  12. Jan 18, 2017 at 10:16 AM
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    The TRD Pro Fox dampers are significantly nicer than the level 1 fox kit. The level 1 fox kit contains 2.0 front and rear no resis. The TRD Pro has 2.5 front no resi and 2.5 rear with resi.

    The TRD Pro setup is nearly equivalent to a Fox level 4 but minus the resi's up front.
    http://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p213/FOX_Level_4_Kit_-_05__Tacoma.html

    You can piece the two together and get the equivalent of the TRD Pro kit straight from Fox but it's entirely possible that TRD worked with Fox to create a custom valving for a more road worthy ride. Perhaps not. I imagine Fox's valving, especially in the 2.5s heavily leans towards offroad performance. Being that the TRD Pro is a truck designed for the road first a foremost Toyota may have opted to shift the valving more towards half road half offroad performance. Again, perhaps not.

    You can piece together the exact TRD Pro kit by getting the fronts and rears separately
    Front: http://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p49/Fox_Factory_Series_2.5"_Coilover_Kit_-_Standard_or_Extended_Travel_-_05__Tacoma.html
    Rear: http://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p80/Fox_2.5_Factory_Series_Rear_Shocks_with_Reservoir_for_0"-1.5"_of_Lift_with_Optional_Compression_Adjusters_(PAIR)_-_05__Tacoma.html
     
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  13. Jan 18, 2017 at 8:20 PM
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    Thanks for the rundown. Stage 4 kit it is. Unless I can score a good deal on the pro shocks.
     
  14. Jan 19, 2017 at 5:40 AM
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    Good info... What's the cost of buying the trd pro shocks new compared to the 2.5s?
     
  15. Jan 19, 2017 at 6:11 AM
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    Did you install these yourself? Who did the alignment? Is it tracking straight on road? I need a set ! Thanks.
     
  17. Jan 19, 2017 at 6:57 AM
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    Looking great!
     
  18. Jan 19, 2017 at 7:48 AM
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    Yes, I did the install myself and had Les Schwab do the alignment, it does track straight.
     
  19. Jan 19, 2017 at 7:52 AM
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  20. Feb 22, 2017 at 6:12 PM
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    Have a ? I bought the trd pro suspension from someone and had them installed the driver side is about 3/4 lower the guy I got them from said his didn't have that lean could they be backwards??thx
     

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