TRD Pro vs Gladiator Overland

Well, to compare properly you would have to do a trd pro and no way you are getting one for less than 10k more than 36k.

Now, I don't think 37's on stock motor are smart. Which is why I stuck with 35 on my Rubi. As for read on capability. I took my Rubi the first month I had it stock to Moab and canyonlands. I have been on many trails in Colorado and Utah. So I know what it can do. There is no doubt that a trd OR is capable. I will find out this summer if it can do the same trails as my Rubi. But I am only going to 33's. If you are right I will be impressed.

 

Are you just trolling now? Jeep and Tacoma are apples and oranges, completely different philosophies

Clearly you don't understand how gearing works or offroading. My Jeeps running an AMC 258 and there are Samurais pushing 35s and 37s with 1.3L Sidekick engines.....

 

Wow, back off there tiger. IF YOU ARE COMPARING A RUBICON, YOU HAVE TO COMPARE TO A HIGH OPTIONED TACOMA LIKE A TRD PRO. IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU.

 

We are comparing offroad performance and price of a modified JT and a modified Tacoma (Quite Literally a JL Rubicon on 37s and a Tacoma OR on 35s)....What improvement does a Pro grill provide offroad?

If you want to have a moot argument about stock vehicles offroad then you completely missed my original post

 

A pro provides better suspension over an OR along with more lift.

You mentioned Tacoma, but not what level you are starting with. At 36k, I assume it's an SR.

 

Again your argument of the Pro is moot. I bought a TRD OR with Prem+Tech for $36.5k.

The problem with your argument is you dont really have the experience offroad. Your comments about stock motors highlight this and your lack of understanding in what holds the JL back. You point out Tacomas weaknesses without understanding the JTs

 

New? You got a smoking deal. Kinda hard to beat that. I just found a new Gladiator Rubicon for 52k. So considerably more than the TRD OR. 16k more. Assuming a more realistic figure of 40k for the TRD OR, you are still at a 12k difference. So that is a big difference.

 

Exactly! Yup, bought it in Virginia when we lived out there. I think MSRP on it was $40k

 

I always find it weird how people complain about the tacoma backseats but not the gladiators. They are both shitty. I personally think the gladiator is shittier. There is literally zero thigh support in the Jeep. Unless you're a child, it's impossible to get comfortable. I couldn't imagine a road trip sitting in the back of one.

 

I can see now that you lack a total understanding of off roading and what a Rubicon can do. Additionally, Your condescending attitude only shows you think way to highly of yourself. You weakness is that last comment for sure. Shall we continue to degrade this thread with veiled insults.

 

Not trying to deliberately insult you but you have made some unusual comments that honestly only inexperienced off-roaders make, nothing wrong with that but be prepared to have others call you on that.

As far as my lack of offroad experience in general and a rubicon, well I have plenty of pics and threads that clearly show my experience but there always more to learn.

 

Not longer than my trail limo!

 

There are other factors to take into consideration. Just because you can get the gearing right doesn’t mean you won’t run into other issues running 35s and 37s. I’ve seen plenty of Jeep’s and tacos blow front diffs and other critical components running 35’s and up. They’re just not built to hold up to the abuse.

 

Sure. Dana 60 axles break in the right conditions but we are speaking general trail capability. But that comment was in reference to his comment about stock engines not differentials so i dont know, wierd

 

Tacoma backseat makes for a great dog hauler (caveat: within reason, medium to large breeds only. No giants). Just another perspective.

 

Get off your high horse buddy, I said there are other considerations because you are acting like it all comes down to gearing and that is silly. He may not have said it in the right terms but he’s right about running 37’s on a stock vehicle. It’s a recipe for broken parts if you don’t reinforce critical components. I love my taco buts it’s laughable to think that it’s easier to lift a taco and run 37’s than it is a on gladiator. CMS, ecgs bushing, gearing, etc. It’s a pain and requires work to run just 33’s on the taco

 

Preaching to the choir. No one ever argured about adding 37s to a Taco. Did you bother reading any of the posts? Have you ever actually installed a long arm kit on a Jeep, set up links, adjusted control arms on live axles?

 

I may not have written as much since I was trying to keep it short from my cell phone. Funny, I thought the same of you, being a novice, to argue that an IFS front, non locker can compete with a solid axle all lockup. Pretty much no serious off roader that I know would agree with you, including most on line. There is a reason why series 80 LC's are so wanted. We can disagree till the cows come home, but you will never get me to agree that a non locked IFS is as good as a Rubicon. I haven't looked thru the other forums on here, but I would bet people drool over solid front axles and lockers.

And of course, I have no real experience in off roading a Tacoma. But yes, I have owned a CJ5, CJ7, 2012 Rubicon, Usuzu trooper(don't hate me), International scout, 1978 power wagon with lockers and 40" MT Bajas, that I use to help pull stuck cars out of the beach at lake powell, when I was there. As for toyotas, I had a mid 80's Toy Truck and a 93 SR5. Both of which I did lots of off roading in the high deserts of california, as well as big bear and rightwood. So yes, I have done a bit of off roading over the last 35 years.

As for the engine thing. I will expand on that. My CJ5 had a 304 v8. My Rubi had the dynastar engine and I think Rubis come with 4.55's. When I went to 35's, the gearing went to crap. Engine did not have enough torque to make up the difference. So it was either go to a supercharger or regear. Off road it did fine with the 35's, but getting there on highways sucked. I won't do that to the Taco, I will keep it to 33's and regear to 4.88's

Having said all that I would not take a gladiator over my Taco just because I feel the Taco is more refined and more reliable. That is worth more to me.

 

Eh I think you are putting words in my mouth. My argument has and remains that a JT Rubicon on 37s is no more capable than my Tacoma OR on 35s and it cost less to achieve that capability. It's really just that simple.

If we want to have a separate discussion about IFS and live axles then I am all for it. It's like the ZR2 argument, just because it has dual lockers doesnt mean its going places that a Tacoma OR cant. Also wheeled with ZR2 and they took the bypasses lol but thats another discussion

 

You literally said on the previous page you can run 35’s on a taco with just a little fender trimming . You are also incorrectly arguing that a taco on 35’s will be just as capable as a solid front axle jeep on 37s and it is just as easy to do. FYI I have about 4 friends who all rock 37’s on their jeeps and I helped all of them.