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TRD supercharger

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by JMITCH08, Dec 3, 2007.

  1. Apr 19, 2016 at 1:38 PM
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    Still interested in your axles
     
  2. Apr 19, 2016 at 1:39 PM
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    They will be available. Working out some details as to which front kit to run. Either throw a 4" Camburg spindle at what I have or swap to their race kit, just comes down to hubs
     
  3. Apr 19, 2016 at 2:55 PM
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    Then why does Toyota state that it should provide 5-6 lbs of boost?
     
  4. Apr 19, 2016 at 2:59 PM
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    Apparently some people read higher boost with alot of stock stuff. Not sure if its because of to much back pressure or clogged cats or something, but normal boost readings are 5.5-6.5 with just the SC and then boost increases a little with each bolt on, and the pulley should get your up around 7.5ish.
     
  5. Apr 19, 2016 at 3:07 PM
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    However, one can reasonably expect the "reported" boost values to drop when opening up the exhaust even if total power output increases.
     
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  6. Apr 19, 2016 at 3:08 PM
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    True Story.

    Except I'm still getting 7.5 with URD Y Pipe and 3" exhaust :D. Headers getting installed with LT though! So that's a win, then It might actually be time for a dyno run! and then another post regear dyno run :D
     
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  7. Apr 19, 2016 at 3:23 PM
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    That is really frustrating because with a pulley I could potentially be pushing 10 and from what I've read that's about the limit for stock internals. I should see if there is someone local who has a calibrated boost gauge that can verify that.

    Stupid VA emissions standards...
     
  8. Apr 19, 2016 at 3:28 PM
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    Ok, again, as stated above, just because you are seeing 10, doesn't mean you are seeing the HP that could cause internal issues. As we've said before, the standard boost levels are about 5-6 or so, with a pulley you should be right around 7-8 or so. But I would HIGHLY recommend you upgrade your intake and exhaust before you go upgrading your boost levels.
    What kind of gauge do you have and is it installed correctly as well?
     
  9. Apr 19, 2016 at 3:29 PM
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    Please. Just...please. I live in California, I don't wanna hear about emissions crap from anyone, I run what I run with every intention of swapping back to stock for my smog tests :D
     
  10. Apr 19, 2016 at 3:34 PM
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    I'm running a Glowshift boost gauge which I know isn't the best but it is installed correctly. The intake has been upgraded but I guess I should look into a new Y-pipe again.

    Random thought. Could the FPR mod be messing with my boost readings? I'm going to go check that tonight.

    They put these stupid emission sniffing vans all over the place and send you inspection notices if you are even slightly off. At least you don't have the risk of jail time for a simple speeding ticket! (AFAIK)
     
  11. Apr 19, 2016 at 3:35 PM
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    Did you buy your supercharger new and install it on an stock truck engine-wise?

    I guess what I'm asking is what mods have you all done?
     
  12. Apr 19, 2016 at 3:41 PM
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    S/C was new and installed on the truck that I am the only owner of at 2.5 years and ~25k miles

    Mods all installed after the S/C: AFE Stage 2 Si, Dynomax catback, Boost, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, Wideband AFR gauge, FPR Mod
     
  13. Apr 19, 2016 at 3:46 PM
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    Looked up Fairfax, VA which appears to be damn near sea level. You are not making 10 lbs of boost on a stock blower, probably should only be showing 6 (maybe 7) with your current mods. The FPR mod won't give you more boost, but rather it will just allow your fuel system just a shade more capacity in terms of feeding the engine the fuel it needs if you were to crank the boost up. You either have cats that are so clogged that exhaust scavenging isn't even a thing or you have an improperly installed/faulty wideband (most likely scenario). Cruising down the road at 50 mph what does it read? What does it read at idle?

    I'm curious... what drove you to do the FPR mod and are you still running the stock fuel pump?
     
  14. Apr 19, 2016 at 4:24 PM
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    14.7/14.8 at idle and right around there when doing 50 mph. I don't have any issues with gas mileage and the truck has plenty of power so clogged cats shouldn't be an issue, right?

    Probably spent a little too much time over on XRU and figured it wouldn't hurt to do the FPR mod with the vacuum line I had laying around. I'm running a 320 LPH fuel pump.
     
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    Wait a minute... Are you referring to a boost gauge or a wideband AFR gauge? Everyone with a stock pulley getting 10 (or less) AFR at WOT with the stock TRD reflash. That just means that your fuel mixture is rich as a pig.
     
  16. Apr 19, 2016 at 4:37 PM
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    Boost gauge is reading ~8 PSI at WOT. 21 vacuum at idle, I can double check what it is at 50 mph in the morning. I also have a wideband that reads below 10 at WOT and around 14.7 at idle and cruise.

    Hope that solves the confusion haha
     
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    Yeah but fuel richness shouldnt effect boost pressures. I'maiming towards cats or messed up boost gauge
     
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    So....... here's what I have gathered. You do in fact know the difference between AFR and boost. That's a relief. No longer any need for you to get me values at a 50 mph cruise. Your FPR mod is currently just an underhood ornament, but some nice insurance for when you decide to get all buckwild and throw a 2.7" pulley on there while running the stock tune. It has been done before, and at a minimum you need the FPR/fuel pump upgrades.

    As for the values that should be considered normal for your nearly stock setup:
    • Boost should hover in the 6-7 psi range since you are so close to sea level. I have heard of people getting 8 with a stock pulley, but they are all at sea level and seem to be anomalies. However, posted dyno values tend to be quite similar to the guys getting 6 lbs which leads me to believe in variances with the air as well as boost gauge accuracy.
    • AFR for the stock reflash/tune lands people at a nice and easy 14.7 whilst cruising around and POURS in the fuel at WOT leading to values in the <=10 range. This is not ideal, but it is safe.
     
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    Well that certainly makes me feel better. I'm going to try and get my hands on another boost gauge and see what it reads before installing the pulley but it sounds like I may be one of those anomalies (or the Glowshift quality that they are known for is shining through)

    Thanks for all of your help @memario1214 and @VolcomTacoma! Will report back with any findings and if/when I get that pulley installed.
     
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