Trump to Roll Back Emissions Regs... Good for Tacoma?

Companies spend a lot of money on R&D. And R&D, including market research, takes a long time. I highly doubt their long term strategy will change to accommodate a possible short term reversal. If they even did decide to do something, by the time they completed their market assessment, product development and marketing campaign, things could completely change.

It is much, much safer to go with the historic trend. It is almost certain that future cars/trucks will need better gas mileage, lower emissions, etc etc.

I think toyota will keep doing what they are doing and this won't change much.

 

I don't think the general complaint is the actual hp/torque numbers. It's the fact that the low end torque is non existent and you have to be at 4k RPM to achieve max torque and REDLINE to achieve that max hp. That's not a typical setup you would want to see in a truck. Works much better in a lighter car, not a 4000lb truck.

The numbers on the engine are fine, it's the approach they took that doesn't make much sense. Especially since the automatic does everything it can to keep you down around 1100 RPM. It's better if you have a manual trans, but I find myself cruising at 2.5-3k rpm so I can have any torque/power on demand.

 

Do you believe the need will stem from market forces or government regulation?

 

I grew up in a region of the US that'd seen three glacial periods. You could easily see it in the way the valleys had been dug out leaving streams hanging to make waterfalls. Walking up a 250 ft deep gorge near my home you were surrounded by sedimentary rock layers with marine life fossils embedded in them from a prehistoric warm sea. A few miles away was a major salt mine digging out rock salt from 2000ft below ground that was from an even earlier sea.

Last year I visited the Mendenhall Glacier near Juneau and walked the trail of time marking the edge of the glacier over the past hundred years or so. After an hour's walk we got to the observation point to view the current edge a mile away.

Yeah, the climate changes. Always has, likely always will. That's easily seen and tons of evidence for it nobody disagrees about.

Now whether we've had an appreciable affect on the climate or whether it's mostly natural cycles beyond our control is a whole other matter.

(in before the )

 

Sure it does, so does the tooth fairy, and the easter bunny too.

 

I am not sure about how man made it is. Yes the climate is changing. We use to be in a ice age, so it for sure has been warming up. I just do not believe government and their science. This is not the place to start going back and fourth on this stuff, its to complex. I am currently living where there was a drought and then this year most snow pack in 25 years, for sure the weather is odd no denying that.

 

You're confused. We're talking about things for which there are mountains of empirical evidence.

 

Nope, not me.

Sorry to disagree, its nothing but a big hoax for a global tax and wealth confiscation

.....wake up from your slumber and get down off that "green mountain" of skewed "imperical evidence" and realize that NOT ONE SINGLE POLITICIAN, IN ANY COUNTRY, gives a rats ass about the enviroment, ...and they sure as fuck don't care about me, or you either.

How old are you? Early 20s? Late teens? You will get it one day.

 

A little bit of both, but a company will always gear it's product towards what it thinks a majority of the market wants (of course within regulations). Us enthusiasts and manual transmission mid size truck owners that want lots of torque/power in a reliable engine are a minority in the overall market.

I would guess a lot of people that buy midsized actually do care quite a bit about mpg and toyota will need to continuously make improvements to that, especially since full sizes are pulling out similar or better numbers at the moment. But I strayed away from other brands because I wanted a simple engine, non turbo, that could last half a million plus miles. Hopefully it pays off.

Also more and more younger people seem to be becoming more environmentally conscious and as electric cars become more mainstream/affordable it will start to become the norm. People will start expecting the gap between cars and trucks to either close or maintain itself, not get worse.

Like i've said before toyota didn't get the actual numbers wrong on this engine, it has more than enough hp and torque for the truck. The approach was just wrong. People would be praising the truck all over the place if the power band was lower and it could generate more torque in the lower RPM range. There's some odd engine management things with it to, but that's besides the point.

 

If you think there is some global, governmental conspiracy involving thousands of researchers devoting their lives to science then I'm not going to be able to convince you of anything.

Unfortunately, you can't use reason to dipose a person of a conclusion they didn't use reason to reach in the first place.

This is so tired.

 

Toyota will do what any other company would do.....keep making what keeps selling.

 

Yeah, whatever kid.
I agree to disagree

 

It's pretty amazing how many people refuse to accept or try to comprehend facts.

"Some people let their ideology determine their beliefs about the world around them. Others let observation and research of the world determine their beliefs and let that knowledge drive their ideology.

One of these is obviously the wiser of the two."

 

I just deleted my own post -
Lock'r down

 

So if we could stop debating climate change and start discussing the original question, that'd be great.

 

The answer is no. Nothing will change for the tacoma or other global car manufacturers.

 

"their science" is actually "science".

Now that the head of the EPA denies that co2 emissions impacts climate change, will you believe the government again now that it aligns with your ideology or will you continue to not believe the government?