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Tundra coilover on a 1st gen Tacoma?????

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Jordan.cliner, Dec 1, 2018.

  1. Jul 9, 2020 at 11:56 AM
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    And replace with a rough country, lol
     
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    50s n 2 tons are the new 40s n tons :burp:
     
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    Great, now I gotta go shopping at GovPlanet to find axles?
     
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    Not really an option I want to explore with this rig. I have several solid axle and sas trucks, this is my wifes new daily driver and our camping base rig (set camping up out of the truck).
     
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    Even more of a reason to remove it.

    You obviously don't need a full, long suspension traveling rig since you have that covered.

    Removing that kit will allow your wife to yield the benefits of both a more compliant suspension (for daily use) without the headache and added expense of trying to keep that cheap kit and swapping shocks that don't belong in your truck.
     
  6. Jul 9, 2020 at 1:51 PM
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    I will pay more not to use any spacers if I absolutely have to. I understand that stock length wont fit but what about 6 inch lift shocks meant for a tundra?
     
  7. Jul 9, 2020 at 1:56 PM
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    I understand and appreciate that point of view. Most importantly, she wants the lift for aesthetics and I dont think she will want it taken off. I like the lift and its supercharged so the power is there for the added weight and slightly larger tires. It also seems like an intense amount of work to reverse a drop bracket lift. I know its not going to ride like a factory truck, and im okay with that. I just want it to be safe and reliable.
     
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    If the stock height shocks fit for stock height applications, then they'll probably work for a 6" lift, too.

    But again, if you're buying new ones, why not just buy the ones for a Tacoma? Tundra shocks aren't any cheaper.
     
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    Really this question started because I had originally planned on using bilsteins and eibach coils but they dont have anything listed as a direct replacements for 6 inch lifted toyotas. I do believe that bilstein has a direct replacement for first gen tundras with 6 inches of lift.
     
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    I understand that. IMO you’d be better off with spacers and a shock that’s actually designed your your truck, than getting a shock designed for a way heavier truck. And that says something, I will tell anyone who listens that I hate spacers.

    Sure, they probably “fit” but the tundra shocks are stiffer/ride rougher than tacoma ones, which makes sense because the tundra is much heavier. And tacoma 5100s aren’t known for being soft anyway.

    Any way you slice it, you’re trying to put on shocks designed for a truck that is much heavier than yours, so your ride quality will be less than optimal, to put it lightly.

    The problem with the 6” kits is your options for replacement shocks are limited, and honestly none of them are really all they good, unless you go king. With a 3” lift, the world is your oyster.
     
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    This.

    My full suggestion is;

    Remove fabtech, replace with full OME or Bilstein 5100s and a leaf pack.

    You retain some lift, half what 6" currently, but gain better on and off road manners.
     
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    Ideally, yeah. You center of gravity is lower, and you don't typically need to do a ton of fender tubbing unless you're running really big tires (>35").

    That said, it's not always practical to just wipe away a 6" lift, as much as I'd want to advocate that, lol. You're starting from scratch, and the front crossmember needs to be replaced. Not impossible, but requires fabrication.

    That said, ~$1200 for a full OME 3" kit, and a few hundred bucks to pay a fabricator to remake the crossmember is probably money well spent. Even the "nice" 6" lifts still have add-a-leafs and block lifts in the back ( :puke: ). But for the cost of a higher end 6" kit, with shocks/coils, you're looking at $3-4k. For that price, you can get a full set of Kings, UCAs, and a custom leaf pack, and it will run circles around any 6" lift kit.

    @BeastyDirtSlut, sorry to get off on a tangent about tearing your entire truck apart and building it the way we want to, lol... Although I would think about where you want to go with your build. If you want a performance minded off-roader, IMO your best option is to revert to a good quality 3" lift running higher end shocks.

    If you want to try and save some money, just contact Fabtech, and get some replacement coilovers for your application. Are they the "best" shocks? Not by a long shot, but they'll for sure ride better than Tundra coilovers. If you're wanting to keep the 6", but want to get better performance, just go with the Kings.

    Or, of you want to run >35s, ur gunna need SAS.
     
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    Bilsteins make a coilover for the 6in lift

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    My 02 has a mild 2 or 3 inch lift with Icon coils in the front and bilsteins in the back. I know that with the lift on the 03 we will be sacrificing balljoints and tie rods etc, along with ride quality. Taking it off isnt an option for me. I asked her earlier today what she thought about taking the lift off, explained the situation, vetoed that one immediately lol. And honestly I am good with it, I really like the look too. I am going to ask a couple shops around town tomorrow to see what they recommend. I agree that the dampening and valving in a tundra setup might be a little too much.
     
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    I agree that the style of lift is not the best for performance, and I knew that going into this, its really just an aesthetic call. I have the receipt for the lift, intalled at 4 wheel parts in vegas for around 4k a couple years ago. I have several SAS 80's yotas and other crawlers that I myself drive and take out wheeling. These first gens I have are rigs that my wife feels comfortable driving around town and what we usually take out on fire service roads and mountain trails. If the truck didnt already have the lift on it when I bought it I would have gone long travel with this one instead.
    No apologies necessary dude. I have thick skin and appreciate the help.
    I will be getting rid of the blocks in the rear as soon as i figure out what coil overs I am going to run....thatll be my next question for you guys.
     
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    THERE WE GOOOO!!! please tell me you have part numbers?!
     
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    Didn't the BDS lift kit come with Bilstein?
     
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    his description says they are Tundra versions
     
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    thanks
     
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    Are you using a spacer?

    I was looking on shockwarehouse to see the specific measurements for Bilstein 5100s for the tacoma and tundra. According to this the tacoma versions have a slightly longer collapsed and extended length than the tundra versions. Am I misunderstanding these measurements?

    Tacoma
    https://www.shockwarehouse.com/site...-Shock-Absorber-Toyota-Tacoma-Front-24-249928
    Tundra
    https://www.shockwarehouse.com/site...-Shock-Absorber-Toyota-Tundra-Front-24-261425
     

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