Tundra over Tacoma

Here is what the WIKIPedia says;
The original Atkinson-cycle piston engine allowed the intake, compression, power, and exhaust strokes of the four-stroke cycle to occur in a single turn of the crankshaft and was designed to avoid infringing certain patents covering Otto-cycle engines.[1] Due to the unique crankshaft design of the Atkinson, its expansion ratio can differ from its compression ratio and, with a power stroke longer than its compression stroke, the engine can achieve greater thermal efficiency than a traditional piston engine. While Atkinson's original design is no more than a historical curiosity, many modern engines use unconventional valve timing to produce the effect of a shorter compression stroke/longer power stroke, thus realizing the fuel-efficiency improvements the Atkinson cycle can provide

 

I am yet again reassured that I know nothing. Thanks.

 

Heck, I didn't know the difference until I looked it up!

 

If that's the case the Tacoma should have "the Otto cycle"!

 

I dont understand this thread.

You're comparing a 270hp truck that weighs 4k lbs to a 380hp truck that weighs 5k lbs.

My parents have an 07 Tundra that they purchased new, its not got 100k miles on it. Its smooth, can light up the tires, tows beautiful. Comfortable, quiet...

My tacoma is small, gets 5mpg more then the Tundra, isnt as comfortable, or as powerful, or as quiet...

Its a compact truck vs a full size truck.... I could see owning both.

 

I think a lot of Tacoma owners would like the power and comfort of the Tundra.........if it wasn't so butt ugly.

 

The previous gen does have the Otto cycle but the Atkinson cycle is what is in Toyota Hybrids so they are slowly transitioning hybrid components into all Toyota vehicles. The Tacoma actually uses both the Atkinson and Otto but to use the Otto you just press down on the gas harder to use more power (Otto) where as the Atkinson will kick on when not accelerating hard (efficiency).

 

All I know is I handed the Tacoma off to my son to drive and he immediately started complaining about how crappy it ran after driving my Tundra around for a month.

 

The previous gen does have the Otto cycle but the Atkinson cycle is what is in Toyota Hybrids so they are slowly transitioning hybrid components into all Toyota vehicles. The Tacoma actually uses both the Atkinson and Otto but to use the Otto you just press down on the gas harder to use more power (Otto) where as the Atkinson will kick on when not accelerating hard (efficiency).

 

If your preference is the Tundra and you traded, see your dealer and maybe they will swap back. Life is good again.

Steve

 

AKA turd unless WOT

 

Agreed... I prefer my 4.0 but the new 3.5 is quieter and more efficient. They will tweak it eventually hopefully

 

Still own both

 

Narrowed down my options to the 2016 Tundra Pro and the Tacoma TRD 4x4. Decided on the Tacoma for the following reasons:

-Tundra Pro was impossible to find and $10k more
-Tundra Pro will get ~5mpg less after modding both trucks
-Tacoma holds value better
-etc

I owned a 2007 Tundra CM 4x4 and loved it. I am by no means hating on it. I really wanted one again but couldn't justify it based on my needs.

 

Tundra would be great if I had the need for a full size truck, but I don't. I know this because I already had a brand new full size GMC Sierra Denali for 3 years and decided to sell it because it was not practical for my needs and usage.

 

Jeep not as reliable or practical as the Tacoma in the long run.

 

Probably as many as Jeep owners. I do so that matters to me and I have to carry hunting dogs and gear.

 

Are you implying they should simply do away with the Tacoma? Since the Tundra is "better"?

 

Ok, so... offroad is V6. Explains fuel consumption. Try comparing that Tundra to a 4-cyl, you'll find a pretty hefty difference.
Ever need to drive in a city, like Toronto, New York...? The smaller the vehicle, the better it is for driving downtown. Yeah, you *can* drive a tundra downtown, but its a LOT of truck, like you said "twice the truck". Even Tacoma can be a bit much for downtown driving, but I've driven full size trucks in the same situation, and it is a nightmare.
***EDIT: now that I think about it, I have driven places *IN THE CITY*, where a full sized truck simply CANNOT FIT. Some older parts of town have houses built so close together, that to get from the road to the back yard requires that you fold in the side-view mirrors on a Tacoma. Tundra? Hope you like shredded sheet-metal.

If Tundra isn't shifting on highway mountain grades as often as Tacoma, this doesn't imply ANYTHING with respect to power. What it implies, is that it is running too low of a gear ratio. You can replicate this by leaving the Tacoma permanently in 3rd. You'll *never* have to shift on those pesky mountain grades.

What it boils down to, is having the most suitable vehicle for the uses that you NEED IT FOR. Pick your priorities. There are certainly jobs that are easier to do with a bigger truck. And there are jobs that are easier to do with a SMALLER truck. So don't try to tell everybody that they have to get one particular truck just because YOU HAPPEN TO LIKE IT BETTER.

What else... right. I would NEVER own a Tundra, because it is **TOO DAMNED BIG**. This isn't about "butt hurt", this is about SUITABILITY. So it seems to me that your purpose here is to CAUSE a problem, not to contribute anything useful, and this really says a lot about YOU. Maybe the problem is that YOU are "butt hurt"...?