1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site
    Quick Links: Ok...NGK Laser Double Platinum or Standard Copper Plugs? Spark plugs 2012 Tacoma Parts Gates Racing OEM Serpentine belt replacement for 1GR Replacing steering wheel leather New California exhaust law

Turbo vs Supercharger

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by beastlytaco, Oct 16, 2008.

?

Which one: turbo or S/C

  1. Turbo

    325 vote(s)
    28.2%

  2. Supercharger

    656 vote(s)
    56.9%

  3. Dont spend the money on either

    171 vote(s)
    14.8%
Page 16 of 24
  1. Apr 11, 2011 at 1:26 PM
    #301
    maxpower29

    #301
    maxpower29 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Member:
    #52525
    Messages:
    8,036
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jordan
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2011 Tacoma 4x4 2.7 5 speed SWB
    All season mats, 2nd filter delete, DT header, Jardine cat-back, URD shifter, Bilstein 5100's all around at .85 front with Eibachs + .25 passenger/.5 drivers spacers and 1.5 AAL, 0w20 synthetic, Scanguage II, extra D rings, OEM backup camera+Mirror, bed mat, Extang Solid Fold, Popnlock 5300, Pro Comp 7089's 4.5bs 285/70/17 Revo 2s, De-badged
    Turbo is more efficient. Uses waste exhaust to produce power. Supercharger uses engine momentum to produce power. Also, nothing in the world beats when a turbo kicks in!
     
    maxpower29, Apr 11, 2011
    #301
  2. Apr 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM
    #302
    350TacoZilla

    #302
    350TacoZilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2007
    Member:
    #2767
    Messages:
    1,119
    Gender:
    Male
    Hancock MD
    Vehicle:
    1997 3RZ 5spd 4x4 Reg Cab
    2.7L 3RZ,K&N filter, 4" deck plate mod,flowmaster 40 series,3" suspension lift, hybrid 52"chevy/toyota rear springs.
    yeah there is its the instant boost a supercharger gives you
     
    350TacoZilla, Apr 25, 2011
    #302
  3. Apr 25, 2011 at 8:01 PM
    #303
    Sleeper362

    #303
    Sleeper362 One Convenient Locations ......In Africa

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2011
    Member:
    #53374
    Messages:
    637
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Corporal
    K-Vegas NC
    Vehicle:
    06 SR5 4X4 DC Shortbed
    A properly sized turbo will do the same.
     
    Sleeper362, Apr 25, 2011
    #303
  4. Apr 25, 2011 at 9:09 PM
    #304
    350TacoZilla

    #304
    350TacoZilla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2007
    Member:
    #2767
    Messages:
    1,119
    Gender:
    Male
    Hancock MD
    Vehicle:
    1997 3RZ 5spd 4x4 Reg Cab
    2.7L 3RZ,K&N filter, 4" deck plate mod,flowmaster 40 series,3" suspension lift, hybrid 52"chevy/toyota rear springs.
    dunno I will say I have rode in single turbo gas and diesels, twin turbo gas and diesels and supercharged gas and diesel... in a car sure turbo all the way unless its some old hot rod that weighs 2 tons

    truck? supercharger all the way just seem to be better matched for trucks powerband (i do of course realize that some of you guys have 2wd 5luggers lowered to car height/weight etc so I'll lump you in with the car crowd you just have a large open trunk lol)
     
    350TacoZilla, Apr 25, 2011
    #304
  5. May 11, 2011 at 2:20 PM
    #305
    Sleeper362

    #305
    Sleeper362 One Convenient Locations ......In Africa

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2011
    Member:
    #53374
    Messages:
    637
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Corporal
    K-Vegas NC
    Vehicle:
    06 SR5 4X4 DC Shortbed
    Ford is doing amazing things with their twin turbo set up that no SC truck could dream of doing.
     
    Sleeper362, May 11, 2011
    #305
  6. May 12, 2011 at 1:38 AM
    #306
    bwill808

    #306
    bwill808 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2010
    Member:
    #46805
    Messages:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    bryan
    hawaii
    Vehicle:
    00 extra cab 5lug trd supercharged
    trd supercharger the grey version , k&n intake , trd headers , 2 1/2 inch catback
    this is tacoma site , ford is fay ford backwards driver returned on foot

     
    bwill808, May 12, 2011
    #306
  7. May 12, 2011 at 4:34 AM
    #307
    Sleeper362

    #307
    Sleeper362 One Convenient Locations ......In Africa

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2011
    Member:
    #53374
    Messages:
    637
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Corporal
    K-Vegas NC
    Vehicle:
    06 SR5 4X4 DC Shortbed
    That is funny, and I realize this is a Tacoma site, but I am a realist and not above giving other brands credit where credit is due.
     
    Sleeper362, May 12, 2011
    #307
  8. Jun 27, 2011 at 7:25 PM
    #308
    davestaco

    #308
    davestaco TW's number one gear whore

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2010
    Member:
    #42134
    Messages:
    2,748
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Schofield Barracks
    Vehicle:
    00' tacoma xtra cab trd v6 4x4
    20 psi on stock internals dosnt sound safe at all.
     
    davestaco, Jun 27, 2011
    #308
  9. Jun 28, 2011 at 10:20 AM
    #309
    Sleeper362

    #309
    Sleeper362 One Convenient Locations ......In Africa

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2011
    Member:
    #53374
    Messages:
    637
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Corporal
    K-Vegas NC
    Vehicle:
    06 SR5 4X4 DC Shortbed
    If tuned well it can last for a little while, but you will be on borrowed time. If the internals are forged, then there is no reason why it can't have an indefinite life span with proper tuning. Do these trucks have forged or cast internals? I believe that MkIV Supras had cast pistons and can hold well over 800 rwhp on the stock shortblock
     
    Sleeper362, Jun 28, 2011
    #309
  10. Jun 28, 2011 at 4:58 PM
    #310
    davestaco

    #310
    davestaco TW's number one gear whore

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2010
    Member:
    #42134
    Messages:
    2,748
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Schofield Barracks
    Vehicle:
    00' tacoma xtra cab trd v6 4x4
    i believe its cast but i could be wrong. if you want to keep it for a long time the rule of thumb is usually not over 9 psi on a stock engine
     
    davestaco, Jun 28, 2011
    #310
  11. Jun 28, 2011 at 5:55 PM
    #311
    chris4x4

    #311
    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Member:
    #6497
    Messages:
    112,751,678
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    FlimFlubberJAM
    Tenoe, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2019 Rubicon 4 Door,
    4.10 gears, sliders, and lots of buttons.
    First gens have forged crank, and con rods, and the second gens have forged cranks, and sintered con rods.
     
    chris4x4, Jun 28, 2011
    #311
  12. Jun 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM
    #312
    davestaco

    #312
    davestaco TW's number one gear whore

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2010
    Member:
    #42134
    Messages:
    2,748
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Schofield Barracks
    Vehicle:
    00' tacoma xtra cab trd v6 4x4
    wow i didnt know that....its not aluminum is it? I have always been told that its just a good rule of thumb to not go over 9psi stock just to be safe
     
    davestaco, Jun 28, 2011
    #312
  13. Jun 30, 2011 at 6:02 AM
    #313
    Sleeper362

    #313
    Sleeper362 One Convenient Locations ......In Africa

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2011
    Member:
    #53374
    Messages:
    637
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Corporal
    K-Vegas NC
    Vehicle:
    06 SR5 4X4 DC Shortbed
    I have watched the same kind of motor pop with 6psi and live at 16psi, its all in the tune and your motor's ability to hold power.
     
    Sleeper362, Jun 30, 2011
    #313
  14. Jun 30, 2011 at 10:10 PM
    #314
    bwill808

    #314
    bwill808 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2010
    Member:
    #46805
    Messages:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    bryan
    hawaii
    Vehicle:
    00 extra cab 5lug trd supercharged
    trd supercharger the grey version , k&n intake , trd headers , 2 1/2 inch catback
    if u want ur motor to wear out at 120 k boost it baby, my compression is 15 psi below minimm spec on turd s.c 5vz ,


     
    bwill808, Jun 30, 2011
    #314
  15. Aug 11, 2011 at 1:19 PM
    #315
    Rowski

    #315
    Rowski Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2011
    Member:
    #58087
    Messages:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Martin
    Phoenix
    Vehicle:
    TRD 4x4
    coming from someone who built a 430hp430tq sti, it's an apples to oranges comparison. reliability is going to depend on 2 major things:
    1. the availability of a quality product. if nobody makes a good turbocharger, get a supercharger and vv.
    2. the tune. most motors blow up up premateurely because they have too much air and not enough/the wrong kind of fuel. if your tuner gets you 100 hp gains but only spent 15 minutes tuning, its not going to be reliable.
    also keep in mind that increased heat+increased power load on the drivetrain=extra wear and tear. the real question is, will the motor outlast how long you want to have the truck.

    personally, i want to shove a v8 in my tacoma one of these days.

    for the love the feeling of turbo lag argument, you guys are crazy. thats like saying you shoved a tennis ball in your intake so you could enjoy the feeling when it comes out. my sti barely lags and i still am jealous of my friend with a supercharger AND a turbo on his sti that hits 500 to the wheels at 2200 rpm and stays there.
     
    Rowski, Aug 11, 2011
    #315
  16. Aug 18, 2011 at 5:44 PM
    #316
    Torspd

    #316
    Torspd Tor-nication

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2009
    Member:
    #22958
    Messages:
    26,318
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tor
    The Great America!
    Vehicle:
    MMVI 4.4L 4x4 Access Cab
    Torspd Custom Turbo kit [] Borg Warner 9180EFR Turbo [] Haltech Elite 2500 [] TiAL Q BOV [] TiAL V44 Wastegate @ 15psi [] CP Pistons [] CP Carrillo Rods [] ARP Head studs [] ARP Main Studs [] ARP Header - Head Studs [] Ported Heads w/ 1mm oversized valves intake/exhaust [] Brian Crower Forged Stroker Crank [] Darton M.I.D. Sleeved Block [] Kelford Camshafts [] Torspd 160* T-stat mod [] APR Large Fuel Rail [] Walbro 460 LPH E85 Fuel Pump [] FueLab FPR [] APR T56 Conversion Kit [] KP RACING Built T56 [] McLeod Racing Custom Twin Disk Clutch [] One Piece Aluminum Driveshaft [] MGW Shifter [] Custom lowering kit [] Ohlins Front Coilovers [] QA1rear shocks [] Custom Ron Davis Radiator [] Dual SPAL Electric Fans []
    I like my turbo setup. :D. Going in for a retune tomorrow for a little more psi. Woot.
     
    Torspd, Aug 18, 2011
    #316
  17. Aug 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM
    #317
    Lucario Runner

    #317
    Lucario Runner Resident Truck/SUV racer

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2011
    Member:
    #59067
    Messages:
    7,183
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Robert
    San Antonio, TX or nearest race track
    Vehicle:
    06 Toyota 4Runner
    AFE stage II intake, APR X1, URD 70mm Throttle Valve (ported and knife edged), NST intake manifold spacer, URD spec U headers, Denso IKH20, URD fuel pump, APR fuel rail, URD Y pipe, URD spec u catback, lightweight water pump pulley, Greddy sandwich cooler plate, Earls oil cooler, IPT valve body, FJ TRD shocks, Cusco front and rear sway bars, Energy Suspension rear track rod bushings and rear link bushings, Carbotech pads, Stoptech ss brake lines, Stoptech slotted rotors, Motul 600 rbf, Limited Grill, Painted hatch cover by me, Painted valve covers by me, Cobra CB, TRD rad and oil cap, Escort 8500, Autometer oil psi and temp gauges, AEM wideband afr gauge, Flexpod, Pioneer 400w speakers.
    Needs T56!
     
    Lucario Runner, Aug 18, 2011
    #317
  18. Aug 18, 2011 at 6:04 PM
    #318
    rme

    #318
    rme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2008
    Member:
    #8309
    Messages:
    1,916
    Gender:
    Male
    Savannah
    Vehicle:
    Green TACOMA
    XM, Panasonic Stereo, Headlights,Electric Ant,Toyota Deluxe Wheels, Rhino Lining, Cargo Rails
    What set-up do you have?
     
    rme, Aug 18, 2011
    #318
  19. Aug 18, 2011 at 6:25 PM
    #319
    Lucario Runner

    #319
    Lucario Runner Resident Truck/SUV racer

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2011
    Member:
    #59067
    Messages:
    7,183
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Robert
    San Antonio, TX or nearest race track
    Vehicle:
    06 Toyota 4Runner
    AFE stage II intake, APR X1, URD 70mm Throttle Valve (ported and knife edged), NST intake manifold spacer, URD spec U headers, Denso IKH20, URD fuel pump, APR fuel rail, URD Y pipe, URD spec u catback, lightweight water pump pulley, Greddy sandwich cooler plate, Earls oil cooler, IPT valve body, FJ TRD shocks, Cusco front and rear sway bars, Energy Suspension rear track rod bushings and rear link bushings, Carbotech pads, Stoptech ss brake lines, Stoptech slotted rotors, Motul 600 rbf, Limited Grill, Painted hatch cover by me, Painted valve covers by me, Cobra CB, TRD rad and oil cap, Escort 8500, Autometer oil psi and temp gauges, AEM wideband afr gauge, Flexpod, Pioneer 400w speakers.
    Lucario Runner, Aug 18, 2011
    #319
  20. Aug 18, 2011 at 6:29 PM
    #320
    Speed Freek

    #320
    Speed Freek Tacoma Whisperer!

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2008
    Member:
    #11676
    Messages:
    4,723
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Vista, Ca, Lake Havasu, Az.
    Vehicle:
    98 Tacoma V8 (LS1) swap
    LS1-T56 swap, Z06 ported heads, cam, Titanium valves, Kevlar clutch. Now building a forged stroker (383) and all the ponies! Old setup was rod-knockin on heaven's door...
    I put one in mine..got an extra gear, yay!


    Is this horse dead yet?? Oh wait it was already dead now were just making horse soup (in reference to the turbo vs SC thread)
     
    Speed Freek, Aug 18, 2011
    #320
Page 16 of 24

Products Discussed in

Denso (5345) IKH22 Iridium Power Spark Plug, (Pack of 1)
$8.47
To Top