Type of o.e. lens on HID Sienna

In the link I posted showing the bulb comparison, there are side-by-side output shots and color temp measurements. The bulbs are just slightly whiter than stock, a stock halogen is about 3200k.

Toshiba vs Korean Sylavania 9011s. CCT is color temp.

I was actually thinking of the Philips +150 Racing Vision tested in the 2nd Gen thread. It was the highest performing stock wattage bulb. But these are the +150 Pros, I've tried them in projectors but not reflectors and I have not tried these Philips HIRs specifically to see how they perform. The different focusing technologies lead to different performance characteristics depending on the bulb. To see if they have a performance enhancing HIR coating, the bulb should have a very faint but visually noticeable iridescent coating on the glass. Need to inspect them in-person.

If you have a 05-11 Tacoma, options are limited, the 12-15 came with much better and more powerful fogs in an H11 base that have lots of options. In the 05-11 your best bet by far is to replace the lamps with new SAE LED fog assemblies. Lots of good options that will perform far better than those stock fogs.

I'd recommend taking a look at the Diode Dynamics SS3 sports in selective yellow. If ice is a concern, I'd go with the SS3 Max in selective yellow, which is much higher output and runs hot. Reviews linked at the top. Thread testing and comparing most SAE LED fogs for the Tacoma:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-led-sae-j583-fog-pod-fog-light-review.554813/

 

Went there, filled the cart. Waiting for a sale.
BTW
* When/how can I find a sale (code)?
* "the 2nd Gen thread" says 05 up lights are positive switched yet refers to your(?) 2013 being negative switched?

* So are you saying the +150 Racing Vision are replaced by +150 X-treeme Vision? PowerBulbs.com only sells the+150 X-treeme Vision
* The X-treeme Vision are not listed as HIR?
https://www.powerbulbs.com/us/product/philips-x-tremevision-pro150-hb3-single

* I would like to stay o.e. as it is an Xrunner as tempting as that is.
* NO 9145,9155 or even H10 on the PowerBulb site... can't seem to find 9155 any where yet.


So this is my take away;

FOR MY 06 Sienna HID

HID
Phillips x-treeme Vision D2S $72.49 each x 2
https://www.powerbulbs.com/us/product/philips-xenon-x-treme-vision-gen2-d2s-single

high beams 9005 HB3 $27.54 each x 2
https://www.powerbulbs.com/us/product/philips-x-tremevision-pro150-hb3-single

fogs 9006 HB3 $30.44 each x 2
https://www.powerbulbs.com/us/product/philips-x-tremevision-pro150-hb4-single

FOR MY 08 Tacoma Xrunner

High/low 9003 HB2 H4 $27.57 each x 2
https://www.powerbulbs.com/us/product/philips-x-tremevision-pro150-h4-twin

Fog 9145 (9155, 9140, H10)
Nadda nunca zilch, @ Powerbulbs. EBay 3000k for now

EDIT...After looking over my notes I realized I had installed a set of EBay Osram Night Breaker 200, 65/60w (no relay) when I changed out the headlight bodies several months ago.



I'll do some local flaps calls

 

When they email one to you. They have reduced the use of sale codes, but I'd guess Black Friday would be the next major sale.

I used to have a 2015 2nd Gen, it was positively switched.
I now have a 2003 1st Gen, it is negatively switched.

No. Philips has multiple product lines, +150 Racing Vision and +150 Xtreme Vision. The +150 Racing Visions are not available in bulbs for your Sienna. Your high beam needs a 9005/9011. A 9011 will outperform a 9005/HB3.

Again the best 9011 is the Korean Sylvania from your local autoparts store.

Those bulbs are not used in Europe, where Power Bulbs is located. 9155s are not common but they do exist. The swap bumps power from 42w 9145/H10 to 55w in the 9155.

Philips German 9155s. Its a 6pk, but also free to ship.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134643510969

Alternatively you could go to NAPA and pick up some 9155s in store as well. Easy to check online if they stock them, all my local stores do.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/LMPBP9155N

You can find them online, but shipping can add a lot to the cost.

Yes.

I'd recommend the Korean Sylvania 9011s instead, which have substantially higher output which will better benefit a high beam.

No. The 9006 cannot be used in a fog. It doesn't have a glare cap on the bulb. It will produce uncontrolled light spill and glare to oncoming drivers and reduce its effectiveness in poor weather. If wanting to keep the OEM housings the 9155 is the best choice.

The +150s are just very slightly better than the +200s for peak intensity. But the +200s are of newer design and last 2x as long as the +150s. The +150s are rated at 200 hours and the +200s at 400 hours. Based on my use, 200 hours = 1yr. For the very small performance difference, I'd recommend the +200s for 2x the lifespan.

Those Osrams are pretty good. You'd only gain about 6% output intensity and just slightly whiter color with the Philips Racing Vision +200s. I'd just run what you have.

 

* NAPA store visit. Check
* 9155... recommended bulb? 08 Xrunner fog as it was a 9145
* Sienna high beam 9005...replace with 9011 Korean Sylvania (just plain Sylvania?)
* Sienna calls for 9006 they must be drivinglights. Best bulb?



Presently running Osram Night Breaker 200 in the Tacoma

Good, I'll be adding a harness to it additionally.

 

I'g go made in Germany Philips. I linked you $50 for 6 Philips 9155s earlier already, if you want a pair, here for $35:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314140824990

Yes, Sylvania standard. They have the newest most advanced 9011s on the market that utilize the performance HIR coating as linked showing testing earlier.

Ahh. Ok, the Tacoma takes a 9145 stock fog bulb, and the Sienna takes a 9006 fog bulb. It's not a driving light bulb, as driving lights are a high beam.

For the Sienna 9006 fogs, I'd run Philips Xtreme Vision +150, or 2nd choice would be Osram Night Breaker Laser +150.

Another thing to boost output of all halogen bulb, even more than the harness, is a voltage booster with an AGM battery. The harness will increase voltage to the headlight bulbs by ~0.3v. The voltage booster boosts all bulbs by 0.5v. It does require an AGM battery, as it is the fix to correct the charging voltage to the different battery chemistry, which happens to have the effect of boosting halogen bulb output. Of course this can also be combined with the wiring harness for even better gains.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-northstar-agm-battery-voltage-booster-upgrade.604478/

 

Check. German Phillips 9155.
What temp are they?

Check.

Really not trying to beat a dead horse, just to understand but wouldn't a 9006/9012 high beam bulb be used only in driving (distance) applications? Used in fogs also?

Yeah I've been reading about that. Unfortunately I just put a brand new Costco Interstate in. BUT I now wonder if this could be to do with an AGM dead battery issue i had once on a minimal use vehicle I had once.?

 

Likely ~3200k-ish. I haven't measured them for 1st hand data.

Agreed that seems suspect. Rather than speculation and relying on online fitment guides, I'd suggest just pulling a fog bulb out of the Sienna for a 100% definitive answer.

Hard to say. Proper charging will extend AGM battery life. Also lots of cheap AGMs out there that sell based on a warranty vs a quality product.

 

O.K. ready to buy the x-treme vision d2r & HB5 high beams but powerbulb just wont take my card. errrr!

Only place I can find that has the d2R is waaaay overpriced local parts stores or ebay (counterfeits?). Amazon seems to be a bust too.

Ive noticed d2S & d3S x-treme vision +150% all over. WHAT makes them different? I have to assume they do not cross over?

Any other confirmed (hopefully US) sources? I'm about to ebay and chance them. BTW any giveaway fraud bulb marks?

 

Is it that PowerBulbs won't take it, or your credit card is declining an overseas transaction? You could shoot their support an email if it is the former, the later needs a call to your banking institution. It can be challenging to find the top quality bulbs domestically.

The R designation is for a reflector housing, which is not common. You have a reflector housing and need the D2R.

 

Ahhh I didn't think of the overseas decline thing.

Yeah local parts have the D2R avalible @ well over $100 ea. Nope.

D2R... reflective, makes sense.

Seems pre cost cutting early 2000's vehicles had some of the best tech? H.I.D. for example. Only avalible in 2nd gen Sierra. My wife bought a 2017 Subaru with the tech. package. Not sure if it was LED, but it was simply unreal. Turned with the steering. In the fog you could see its pattern. The top cut off line was sharp as a razor.

Learned alot thru this in detail bulb replacement thing that I should have aready known. Ha

 

Challenging, yeah I'll say.

I was curious what exactly the "R" differed from the "S" in the D2R/D2S really was ahout as the D2R seems minimally stocked. A youtube ahowed the reflectorless "S" moded to work. I would think the pattern would be only issue. And no I'm waiting until I can find the proper bulb. So far Powerbulb hasn't returned emails???

But until then I'm going with cheap ebay
06 HID Sienna
* 2005 vosia high beam with harness with polished/clearcoated lens
* 2006 vosla fog with harness and new lens set
* present o.e. HID hulbs

BTW
9005 = HB3 = 9011 high beam
9006 = HB4 = 9012 low/fog
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