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Upgrade 5 lugger or trade for 4x4?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by jspadaro, Jul 28, 2009.

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What should I do about my 5lug?

Poll closed Aug 27, 2009.
  1. Deal with it, you poser idiot.

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  2. Lift a 5 lug, why not.

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  3. Just get the 4x4 already.

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  1. Jul 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM
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    jspadaro

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    Moved to alabama, wanted to save money, bought an 09 5 lug access cab 4cyl manual.

    Love everything about the truck except the ride height and lawnmower wheels. :( I figured i wouldn't need 4wd down south, and I don't, but the huge body and tiny wheels are starting to bother me more and more.

    At first I thought I'd just lift it and put on 245/75R16's, but I don't want to do spacers, so if I were going to do it, I'd at least get the SAW 2.5" coilovers up front and 2.0 / add-a-pack in back, and maybe even get the total chaos 5 lug u.c.a's to go with them.

    I'm realizing now that this is going to cost a ton of money, it looks like the coilovers are like $800, ucas are about $650, rear shocks are around $400, and leaf packs are $100-$200. 5 wheels + tires will probably be in the $1000 to $1500 range, so we're talking like $3000 to $3500 in parts, and probably another $500 for install! :(

    I'm realizing maybe I should just scrap the whole thing and trade up to a 4x4, even though 4 cylinder 4x4 manual's are hard to find around here. I know I'll lose a bunch on the trade - I paid 20 for the truck new in January, no idea what I could get a pretty rare setup like that for, but then I'd be happy with the height and wheels/tires so would probably leave it alone.

    What would y'all do: Just deal with it, lift and so forth on current truck, or screw it and trade up to a 4x4?
     
  2. Jul 28, 2009 at 1:20 PM
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    I think that you can fit 30's on there stock if I remember correctly. IMO id get a 2.5'' spacer lift and a AAL and get it up!
     
  3. Jul 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM
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    I'm trying to avoid spacers though, as pre-load spacers are supposed to ride like wagon wheels and I've seen pictures of what non-preload spacer use does to your ball joints. :(
     
  4. Jul 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM
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    thats what she said.......o wait thats not something to brag about...:eek:
     
  5. Jul 28, 2009 at 1:24 PM
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    get some X-Runner wheels, if you look around you can get a good deal on them, I know a few have got them pretty cheap, it makes a huge difference in the look of the truck. The biggest detail is that these wheel sit flush with the fender, stock 5-lug wheel sit inside the wheel well making them look more wimpy, so the stance of the truck changes. Im using 235/55/18 tires in mine and the truck sits a bit higher.

    Mine:
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  6. Jul 28, 2009 at 1:26 PM
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    Definitely x-runner wheels look better, but I'm really not into the low-slung truck look. No idea what I was thinking 6 months ago.
     
  7. Jul 28, 2009 at 1:30 PM
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    Then I guess you should trade it for a 4x4 or a pre runner
     
  8. Jul 28, 2009 at 1:58 PM
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    Long-travel that thing and turn it into an offroad beast. I spent near $6000 to convert to a spring-under rear suspension. Yours is already set up like that so you'll save huge on labor. Embrace it, drop in a rear locker, and turn it into a sick offroad runner! :)
     
  9. Jul 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM
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    A 2wd offroad beast? My understanding is the only way I can LT it is with the TC LT kit, which is $2800 for just the ucas, lcas, etc + coilovers + rear shocks + rear leaf springs which is gonna be uh hella expensive, right? I mean that would be sweet, but I'd most likely just go with regular suspension improvements and be done with it before that.
     
  10. Jul 28, 2009 at 2:50 PM
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    well, heres the thing, if you wheel it, which from it sounds like you dont, i would keep it as is and buy some more stout tires on it and a 3 inch lift so you could put bigger tires on it. take a look at EPa4wd's gallery. hes got lots of compiled pics of lifted 5 luggers.
     
  11. Jul 28, 2009 at 2:57 PM
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    Nope, the use it gets is mainly getting to hiking, biking, hunting, boating, etc sites, which can involve really crappy or non-existant roads, but no real wheeling. The extra suspension travel and tire size would be nice in that situation though, but its mainly for looks and I do not need the 4wd at all.

    I'm just finding that lifting it properly - doing coilovers as opposed to spacers - is going to cost me an arm and a leg, apparently! But I'm leaning more towards this idea as i realize how reamed i'd get on a trade-in.
     
  12. Jul 28, 2009 at 3:08 PM
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    well, i hope you find what you need. i was always looking at the readylift kits, but guys tell me that they are very bad on ball joints. but my situation is much like yours. i wouldnt be lifting to wheel, just for looks. if you find a soultion that suits you, id be interested to know what it might be.
     
  13. Jul 28, 2009 at 3:21 PM
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    Yeah, If I lift, I'm going to spring for a lift that actually improves performance and handling. I've seen what a spacer does to a ball joint, and it ain't pretty, wish I could find the link now.

    If I go all the way with the TC UCAs, coilovers, rear shocks and leaf springs, yeah it'd cost me a bundle but i should get a pretty awesome amount of travel out of it.
     
  14. Jul 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM
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    What i would do is take your truck and do a mid travel kit, it will give it a nice look and wont break the bank as much as a longtravel kit would (thats what im saving for) and that way you can use you 2 wheel drive as a prerunner
     
  15. Jul 28, 2009 at 10:45 PM
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    hey man i know how you feel with the stock set up. i wanted a 4x4 but my dad bought the base 2wd for me so i had to deal with it. I got some used A/T tires from my buddy that were 30/9.5-15 and they fit fine and gave me a little tougher look. but i decided to switch the look on the taco so now i have 255/55-18's now wich are about 30's and fit fine stock. i have a few pictures on my profile if you wana check them out and get an idea. hope whatever you do your happy with!
     
  16. Jul 28, 2009 at 10:47 PM
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    it will work out i dont think you will have any problems
     
  17. Jul 29, 2009 at 8:14 AM
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    Yeah, done right you'll be looking at about $15k-$20k in suspension + fabrication to fit the shocks. :eek: Most of the desert guys run locked 2wd rigs.

    I wasn't saying it'd be cheap. I was just looking to spend someone else's money for a change. ;)
     
  18. Jul 29, 2009 at 8:20 AM
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    Hah, well, I'm realizing I'd probably get $15-16k on a truck I paid $20k for, and then a 4 cyl 4x4 would probably be in the $23k-$25k vicinity, so I'm looking at essentially paying between $7k and $10k for a 4wd upgrade! Yikes.

    Looking at it that way, getting some new UCA's, coilovers, rear shocks, leaf springs, and tires for probably 3-4 OTD doesn't seem so bad. Now I just need to find the relevant shocks to go with this: http://www.chaosfab.com/88500.html

    Those SAW part numbers only seem to exist on the total chaos website, and nowhere else.
     
  19. Jul 29, 2009 at 9:41 PM
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    Did you have any luck finding info on the SAW's
     
  20. Jul 29, 2009 at 10:46 PM
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    I definately wouldn't trade it in. You would lose way too much money especially if you payed 20. I think you overpaid on a base model mine was 16 out the door. I was thinking about the readylift kit too. I've heard that spacer lifts can tear up ball joints but I have also heard that if you don't exceed 3 inches youre fine.
     
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