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Upper Control Arms, JBA vs. SPC vs. Camburg

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Travis1209, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. Mar 14, 2019 at 6:53 AM
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    thats all i ever tell anyone. Nothing is perfect. They all have a "hook" if you will that makes them better then the other guys. Its just a matter of determine which on will better fit your needs
     
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    So...the newest style SPC's don't have issues right?

    :anonymous:
     
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    SPC all day, greasable and very great so a 50/50 wheeler set up
     
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    I drilled into my arms and made them greasable
     
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    whoever started talking in this thread again realizes this is over a year old and the op has already bought ucas right?
     
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    Questions are still being asked relating to the op's topic. Some threads were started many years ago and continue today which is a good thing in my eyes. Better to have one thread with lots of questions and answers than using the search tool and finding many threads asking similar questions with duplicate answers. I always use the search tool first then ask if I can't find it . Parts evolve so what was a good answer years ago may not be today. This way if some one answers a question it only needs to be asked and answered once per thread till the typical forum "he who swings the biggest penis" starts and ruins it.
     
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    Exactly, do we need another "what control arms are best" or "what's the biggest tire I can fit stock" super annoying to have a bunch of the same threads
     
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    To play devil's advocate here (and to be clear I think jbas are a fine product); didn't JBA go through a decent amount of revisions for quality and fitiment issues? Seems like these have all been resolved now, but spc aren't the only ones that have had issues.

    As far as spc arms breaking that was an old bushing design which did not allow the arm to freely rotate around the mounting bolt which stressed the connection from bushing sleeve to arm over time. That's been rectified for quite a while now.

    SPC ball joints are also super simple to change just like jba. Sure you can't find them at the local vatozone, but if you're greasing them every oil change and periodically checking them you will be fine. Order a few spares if you're concerned, they're relatively inexpensive.

    I wanted the option to have almost infinite adjustment, plus I did not want to buy wheel spacers just to fit control arms. IMO if you have a lifted truck(or really any modified vehicle) spend a little extra money and go to a good shop that has experience with modified vehicles. Most chains/ local shops don't have much experience with modified vehicles and set the alignment to factory specs which is not what you want. Get on your local regions SCCA boards and ask for a local shop that does alignments on autox/ track day cars. They understand proper geometry, not just trying to get the computer to go from Green to red.
     
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    To summarize: no. Make sure to torque the bj to correct amount per instructions and you're good.
     
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    But internets arguing ...
     
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    just one people wanted more caster then 3 degrees so he tweaked em to gain a bit more. When they were tweaked out they had the possibility of contacting the coil bucket. At the point he went into his files looked up everyone who ever ordered a set from him and sent them a brand new set of the new ones for no cost


    edit and your not wrong. Like i said everyone has a preference and each brand has its own merits :) around here the only place to get that kind of alignment is the stupid jeep place and even they suck because they mostly do solid axels and they want $250 for an alignment lol. Ntb get these dead on everytime as well as total chaos and icons running around.
     
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    SPC are not a good option if you actually wheel your truck. I’ve seen it twice now, on two separate trucks, where the balljoint has slid inward from a hard hit. That’s enough for me to not recommend them to people and recommend JBA instead.
     
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    Personally my favorite designed ones in a balljoint are the camburg tbh. Gets you good clearence for the tires good alignment numbers and works well. But the way the balljoint cuts are designed hold water and rust from the inside out (all balljoints rust eventually jba is doing a different coating now i have zero experience with but its a replacable part so no biggie to me) but if i do change from the jba it will be to those at some point if i decide to shake things up a bit. you also need to pull the camburges off the truck in order to swap a balljoint but its not the end of the world i guese
     
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    Not properly torqued bj?:notsure:

    I've had some pretty hard hits on mine with no issues. Even was not paying attention and literally drove into a concrete bollard with the pass side tire at full lock hard enough to severely bend the spindle with no movement of the SPC bj. And my pile has been wheeled all over rocks in NH with no issues.

    That being said if you're beating on your junk I guess if not properly torqued it could shift in on a hard hit, but that's not my experience.
     
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    Yeah, that’s a possibility. I don’t know for certain but it’s just one more thing to potentially move/go wrong/however you wanna look at it. I think people just get caught up in the adjustability aspect of it when they reallly don’t need that. I like to keep it simple.
     
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    I'd be all for them but no 3rd gen option their control arms end at 2015 MY. I have no budget on important parts, but just ordered the JBA HD. THANKS
     
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