Virginia State Inspection

We have it to easy here in Oregon

 

Easy big guy.. just trying to spread the word. All mods are selfish.. that's the point. I didn't buy my truck for you.

As I mentioned before.. I don't recall the height, width, and length of the throw being different in my application. So call me stubborn, but I'm not convinced that oncoming traffic can tell the difference.

Of course I'd rather have the OEM LED's - who wouldn't. Santa forgot again this year though..

 

My LEDS don't blind other people. Mine are just finn and they work far better that any halogen I tried.

Totally agree. I run the DD Sl1 high and low beams, they work great, no issues what so ever, never been flashed by on coming traffic and all this science bullshit is not all true. My LEDs work better than any halogen bulbs I have tried. My lights are not distorted, DDdid a fine job. I trust the company more so someone on the internet,lol.

 

I'm not surprised. You seem like the type.

This is why you should have kept reading:

https://www.theamericanconsumer.org/2019/06/do-mandatory-vehicle-inspections-really-make-us-safer/

There is literally zero evidence of safety inspections reducing vehicle related death and injury. Zero. Anywhere.

All it does is leverage an extra cost on motorists for no gain whatsoever.

 

You do understand that all enforcement eventually rests on the concept of force, correct?

EnFORCEment.

Not the auto mechanic of course, but the bottom line on *every* law and regulation is that it is optional as a practical matter until agents of the state with guns force or restrict certain behaviors under penalty of great loss or death for non-compliance.

Yes, compulsory means forced performance under threat. (i.e. arrest or confiscation of property) That's the *only* definition, the rest is a sales pitch based on convenience (i.e. citations for out of date inspection are inconvenient).

 

Not exactly what I would consider a neutral source of information.

 

Their data is sourced. Facts don't change based on who says them.

 

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

 

Oh nice, a personal attack! But at least you waited until the day *after* Christmas, charitable of you!

I don’t have the raging hard on *for* inspections that you have *against* them. Nor do I take it personally and get triggered by a stranger’s opinion on the internet. I’m merely pointing out that your logic on liability law doesn’t hold water.

By the way, the most likely reasons that vehicle inspections (perhaps) aren’t effective in impacting accident injury and death rates have nothing to do with whether liability law is an effective deterrence for operating an unsafe vehicle. The number one reason is that:
-Approx 98% of accidents are caused by driver error, approx 2% caused by mechanical issues. So impact on mechanical issues at inspections has very little impact on the overall accident rate.

Closely followed by number two: inspections often don’t always catch mechanical issues. But they do sometimes, and they do prevent some small number of serious accidents, so that by itself is a good thing. Is it a good thing compared to the overall cost of the system? Debatable of course. But that’s not the discussion I was participating in.

Have yourself a great Sunday, and try to take it easy.

 

Thats called "overreach.". What a joke. Im glad we only have the dumbass E check in Ohio. Check engine light before the check? Clear it, pull in, you pass.
I cant imagine someone looking at my choice of frigging bulbs.

 

The article does raise an interesting perspective that most accidents aren’t caused by mechanical defects.

That said, I’m not certain how many accident reconstructionists are doing detailed vehicle inspections to determine whether brake pad thickness or tire tread depth was a contributing factor to the accident.

Usually, accidents are caused by more mundane things like driving too fast for the conditions or negligent driver behavior (drinking, phone distractions, etc.).

I’m not certain there is any vehicle safety feature capable of overcoming human stupidity.

 

Autonomus driving, when we eventually get there, is probably the best candidate.

 

Yeah. Fallacious thinking is forgiveable, willful ignorance and closed mindedness not so much.

You demonstrated no such thing - all you've shown is that you *feel* vehicle inspections are somehow beneficial despite the data showing exactly the opposite.

There's no "perhaps". It's "definitively". Not a single study ever performed has shown a meaningful effect.

The overarching point you seem to be missing here is that the government/regulatory overreach is the core problem. Yes, there are all the other negatives, but they all originally stem from the fact that mandatory vehicle inspections shouldn't exist at all to begin with.

 

I see 10 pages in the next 24 hours. This is funny!!!

 

I’m gonna try to make this *really* easy for you.

I’m not arguing for vehicle inspections. Forget vehicle inspections.

You made an original point that awareness of liability causes people to correct mechanical/safety issues on their vehicles, on their own. I don’t believe that to be true. Absolutely nothing, not a thing to do, can’t be any more clear, with vehicle inspections. My main point is that tons of people are short sighted, and don’t do things for long term logical reasons. The same people who, say, don’t fix their vehicles might also buy shit they can’t afford and incur debt they can’t repay. Are you picking up my point? I don’t give two shits if you don’t agree, but it’s hilarious for you to be a condescending ass because you think I’m making some other point that I’m not making.

If you want to digress back to the inspection discussion, I’ve essentially agreed with you on 99% of your points, but you’re so focused on making your argument and bashing dissent, that you’re failing to see that we agree. The “why” is important. Again, vehicle inspections are primarily ineffective because the vast majority of accidents have *nothing* to do with the condition of the vehicle(s) involved. Do inspections catch some safety issues and prevent some accidents? I believe the answer is probably, but a drop in the bucket. Statistically insignificant. Therefore not worth the expensive of the program. But let me bring you back to the fact that I am not arguing for the efficacy of inspections. I’m arguing against the idea that people properly maintain their vehicles of their own volition because of liability. Inspections: let it go, dude.

 

Liability and *self-interest*, yes. Because it's true. Which is *why* there's no difference in fatality and injury rates in inspection v non-inspection states: The truly meaningful safety things people address on their own because they don't want to die and/or get sued. Inspections just nitpick meaningless items.

Fucking finally.

Now go do whatever.

 

@crashnburn80

Yup. A lot of states are saying no to the retrofit shenanigans anymore. Dropping in HIDs can be a no no too - the guy I tagged did a lot of work explaining why. And also explaining the best lights to use instead.

Long of the short - OEM led is the best. H9 halogen bulbs are the next best thing.

 

The data you’re referring to doesn’t support your stance, because, again, the overwhelming majority of accidents are caused by human error. If inspections magically prevented 50% of accidents caused by mechanical issues, that would be 1% of total accidents (if you believe the numbers), statistically irrelevant. I can make this statement and at the same time not be making a case for the inspections themselves, one of the points you’re missing.

To sum: the fact that inspection states don’t have less accidents has no bearing on whether people always keep their vehicles in good order to avoid liability. I saw a few examples on the road earlier, running errands, and I even live in an inspection state.

 

I honestly don't get the facination with replacing the OEM headlights. Whether it be bulbs or the entire housing. I've found the OEM headlights to provide more than adequate lighting in all conditions. Like what the shit are you guys trying to see? The future?

 

Good to know that the @MESO stage1 taillights didn't get a hit by the inspector.
We have anual safety inspection and emissions testing here in Pennsylvania. I usually take my vehicle in to a local independent mechanic a month early since you can technically go up to two months early. This way if it falls for any reason I can take my time to repair it on my own or have a buffer to pay for it. But they hardly ever failed my stuff for much other than may brakes were too low. I don't like having to go through it every year and it's really a burden on poorer people who often have older vehicles and often times it takes those old cars off the road. As they won't pass if the frame or unibody is rusted though and structure is compromised or exaust can get in the cabin..

I'm looking at moving to possibly Tennessee in the future. Wonder what it's like there.