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VSC System with 6" Suspension Lift

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Mon Leb, May 2, 2009.

  1. May 2, 2009 at 5:50 AM
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    Mon Leb

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    Hi everybody!

    1.What is it with the fact that I can't install a 6" lift since my truck has the VSC system?
    2. How come most of the 6" sold on the market specifies that it cannot be installed if equipped with factory hitch?

    :help:
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  2. May 2, 2009 at 8:00 AM
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    You can still put a 6" system on it, but why? Pro comp has one out there but be sure to read ALL the reviews on it. Not just the 1 or 2 that happen to like theirs. You know once you go 6" you can't go back, right? I was thinking the same way as you, hell bent on 6" and absolutely nothing else. I am so glad I went with a 3". It rides so damn fine and gets compliments everywhere I go. Just think about it before you jump.
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  3. May 2, 2009 at 12:50 PM
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    Thanks for the advice. That's the kind of story/experience I need to know to make the right choice(between 3" and 6"). I'll continue to ask around. I haven't made a final decision regarding that 6" lift anyway.

    By the way, your truck's looking great! :thumbsup:
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  4. May 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM
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    You can run a 6" ProComp Stage II lift on an '09 with VSC. You'll need kit # K5073BMX and you MUST run 18" (or larger) wheels with this kit. Not sure what the stage I kit # is. I have not had any problems at all.
    Fabtech is supposed to be releasing a kit for VSC equipped Tacomas, but I'm not sure if it's out yet.

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  5. May 2, 2009 at 11:41 PM
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    uhh...everything? lol
    im not trying to be a prick but who the hell lifts their truck and then goes back to stock? seriously...that shouldnt ever be a reason not to do the 6" kit.
     
  6. May 3, 2009 at 5:05 AM
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    Thanks a lot for the infos. I'll check for that n# you gave me.
    So your telling me my 17" won't fit, but why? I'll explain my situation to here. I want to do the lift this year and change rims and tires next year(33" or 35"). Budgetwise. Is it a back spacing problem with my 17"?
    Should I wait next year and do everything then?(that would be torture:tumbleweed:)Please at least the lift:bananadance: LOL
    Great truck you got there!:thumbsup:
    P.S. What company does those step bars?

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  7. May 3, 2009 at 5:11 AM
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    Quite honestly I didn't know we couldn't go back, wasn't my intension anyway. He must've mean if you don't like the handling or the general driving condition that the kit might create.:notsure:

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  8. May 3, 2009 at 5:42 AM
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    I think there are some issues with clearing the new steering knuckle with anytihng smaller than 18's. There are a few folks who have found rims that will work...but I think it's more trial and error than anything.

    I think if you look for NFAB step bars you'll find them...
     
  9. May 3, 2009 at 7:02 AM
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    i did on my 00 dodge ram with a 4" trailmaster. it was a lease i planned on keeping.it turned out to be a heap of crap, so i welded all the brackets back in and sent her back to the dealer.
    stupid ????? what the hell is vsc anyway?
     
  10. May 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM
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    Thanks for the compliments. :)

    Brunes is correct. They made changes to the spindles to accommodate the VSC. This puts the steering knuckle very close to the wheel.
    Here's a pic of the clearance WITH 18" wheels. So, you can see how tight it would be with 17's. 17's will fit, you just can't turn the wheels.
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    The step bars are Go-Rhino Dominator II stainless steel. Truckcandy.com had the best price on the stainless model.
     
  11. May 3, 2009 at 1:27 PM
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    It stands for Vehicule Stability Control. It's basically a computer that controls throttle/brake when the truck skids.:wink:
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  12. May 3, 2009 at 1:32 PM
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    O.K. then, it leaves me no choice but to buy the whole kit(lift+wheels) at the same time.:( I'll check that web-site for the bars.

    Thanks again for the infos and pics as well:D

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    ooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh.
     
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    uhh...everything? lol
    id vote 20s over 18s, almost the same tire prices and seems like there is more to choose from with a 20" wheel. I guess 18s and 35s might be better than 20 and 35s though...
     
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    People who don't realize going into it that it is really going to affect the way the vehicle handles and performs. I know my power and gas milage seriously dropped on my ram that had 6" and 35's on it. I just really didn't care for it after that. Re-gearing = too expensive, Functionality with a family = Not even close, Did I really need it for the type of driving I do, Hell no. I have ridden in other people's tacomas with 6" of lift and anybody that says their truck perforns like a stock truck and has not had a considerable loss in power and gas milage is full of crap. If this were the case there would never be a post on here asking what gearing should I switch too. I'm not trying to be a dick or bash anybody either, if you have the money, go for it. If I had the money to buy another tacoma and set it up with 6" and 35's to use as a SECONDARY vehicle I definately would. 6" IMO is just not a good idea unless you are doing heavy off roading and as a primary every day vehicle. Look around at how many vehicles with a 6" lift are for sale on the internet, and then look at the milage on them. You think they're that low for a reason. You can always go up from a 3" but coming down is not really an option.
     
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    You can't really go back because they have to cut the cross member of the frame. To take it off you would have to find somebody to rebuild and re-weld your frame. Ask around at the off road shops. They'll tell ya. I have yet to find one that said they could change one back to stock or a 3" kit after a 6" was installed.
     
  17. May 3, 2009 at 6:48 PM
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    no guts........no glory? I have been riding this fence for 4 months now on this decision. I love the looks of the 6" and I like the functionality of the 3".

    Why cant RCD just get that damn 4.5" kit working for my 09 with VSC? I havent the patience to wait.

    SuperDs truck makes me want that 6" lift badly though.
     
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    Thanks for the advises about the 6" lift. Is your truck has a 3"?
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  19. May 3, 2009 at 6:55 PM
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    Man, you're making me think twice before I'd do that 6":(
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    this is a question for jrobson
    i was wondering if you need to buy a stubby antenae to get into parking garages because i am going with almost the same set up
     
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